Grendel
Well-Known Member
No he just said he’s taking no notice of tomorrow’s shenanigans
Pointless announcements on a lectern outside No. 10. Well at least he’s not starting in the same vein as May.
No he just said he’s taking no notice of tomorrow’s shenanigans
If that’s true why are you predicting he’s going to call an election on Wednesday?
And here you go again trying to make out regions become a whole country. What is wrong with you?It is one village in southern France. If this is the basis of your claims then it's absurd.
And not to mention incredibly patronising to try and make out that a country with a larger economy than the UK is somehow dependent on it.
Pretty much leaked it to every journalist there
What he suspects will happen is it will be rejected by the opponents. As I said before it’s confirmed he can wait till November
However, he may pull the rug Corbyn further and say he will do it in October. This means the opposition if they refuse will be giving them a vote of confidence which means he will not have to go to Brussels for an extension
Pretty much leaked it to every journalist there
What he suspects will happen is it will be rejected by the opponents. As I said before it’s confirmed he can wait till November
However, he may pull the rug Corbyn further and say he will do it in October. This means the opposition if they refuse will be giving them a vote of confidence which means he will not have to go to Brussels for an extension
He could shit in your face and you'd call it ice cream
Well. I see you’ve covered all angles with duplicity.
For what it’s worth I agree that he will seek an election on Wednesday as he’s expecting to lose tomorrow and tonight’s show was about appointing blame (as is the MO of leavers) on others. It’s a replication of May’s tactics. It’s not even original.
he said there is no circumstance he will
Sorry? He’s going to give labour and the Lib Dem’s an election before November? Do you want that or are you frightened of the outcome?
My point is no matter what he does you will find a way to praise him. Focussing more about elections and cementing his own power than dealing with Brexit sums him up. I've said countless times I don't want an election now and I've also said why.
Agree with that pretty much. All I saw tonight was a PM trying to shirk ownership of the responsibilities of his position.
My point is no matter what he does you will find a way to praise him. Focussing more about elections and cementing his own power than dealing with Brexit sums him up. I've said countless times I don't want an election now and I've also said why.
So did May and she went back twice for an extension.
He’s going to offer an election if he’s defeated tomorrow - that’s accepting the ultimate responsibility - surely that’s the best solution
He won’t
Because Corbyn will lose
Does Boris have a history of standing by his words? Are we going to see the PM laying down in front of bulldozers for instance?
Didn’t you predict that Corbyn would be consigned to the history books at the last election?
Why is it? What will an election change? He’s saying he can’t do his job if he can’t do it on his terms. In other words he can’t do his own job because it’s not possible following protocol. In other words his leadership election campaign was a sham.
Ironically this is playing out exactly as Rory Stewart called it during his campaign during the same leadership contest should the winner try taking it down the route Boris was threatening.
Well all the political analysts are saying it’s nothing like Mays strategy but hey you are the expert
Alexander's attempt at a governjunt appears to be failing - proroguing parliament, threatening deselection to rebels (when he himself voted against the government while he was in it!) and Gove suggesting they might just ignore legislation passed in the Commons.
Think he's starting to realise this governing malarkey is harder than he expected cos he can't just do what he wants. He is coming across as very Trump like but with a posh accent and a better vocabulary.
If an election is called I think he might win against Corbyn - it'd be a microcosm of current politics - one extreme against the other.
This is a joke right? He’s saying he cannot deliver his commitment to the people so he’s putting the people in the position to make the choice.
There is an election planned it seems for October 14 so if you want a second referendum vote I guess labour or revoke Article 50 vote Lib Dem
You’ve said many times the country never voted for a hard Brexit. So surely as the only party that will offer that is Johnson he’s going to be thumped in the election. Yes? It’s
This is a joke right? He’s saying he cannot deliver his commitment to the people so he’s putting the people in the position to make the choice.
There is an election planned it seems for October 14 so if you want a second referendum vote I guess labour or revoke Article 50 vote Lib Dem
You’ve said many times the country never voted for a hard Brexit. So surely as the only party that will offer that is Johnson he’s going to be thumped in the election. Yes? It’s
He’s acting like a CEO not a drone like a politician does
He’s going to call an election if he loses the vote so it seems
How’s that like Trump? Regarding deselection remind me how many labour MPs momentum wish to remove from standing as they are not Corbyn supporters?
If he call the election that is democratic process - he’s saying parliament is broke and cannot decide and he’s letting the public make a choice
You have to acknowledge if he does this it’s the most democratic solution?
Trying to vote against the order of the government isn’t. So this you I’m sure would support
This is a joke right? Boris was elected conservatives leader saying he could get a deal. Are you saying that this is another Boris broken promise?
But he's not a CEO. He's PM and has to abide by certain rules and protocols. Even CEO's have to get things past the board, just sometimes they have the board in their pocket as they've filled it with yespeople.
Deselection is something the likes of momentum threaten and they're rabid extremists. It's also been something the Tory's have had a go at on the 'raving left'. But for Alexander to threaten it when he himself (along with a few members of his cabinet under May) has rebelled against the government is massively hypocritical.
He's like Trump because as you put it he's acting like a CEO - he thinks he can just get everyone to do what he wants.
If he does this it's the democratic solution, but it's the last resort because he's tried all the non-democratic ways first - proroguing, threatening rebels, considering just ignoring Commons legislation.
And here you go again trying to make out regions become a whole country. What is wrong with you?
One village? Read the article again. A lot of the whole district is the same. Do you think that it is the only district where people rely on the British? Shall we go hundreds of miles away and try the North of France? Would you like to stay within a hundred miles?
I said exactly the same to you about where my wife and kids have moved to. It isn't an isolated case. It would be the same as making out that the whole of the UK is doing well because of how well certain parts are doing. The problem with you is you only want one version to be put forward. Yeah France will be OK and hardly anyone in France will be affected. But look at the truth. Wealth distribution in France is wider than in the UK. And we know how bad it is here. But you seem to think that the vast majority of people in France won't notice any difference after we leave.
Also only a couple of days ago you were claiming that only Corbyn could call an election and Boris would string it out until November. You now seem to be claiming that Boris is going to call the election and it’s going to be in October.
Alexander's attempt at a governjunt appears to be failing - proroguing parliament, threatening deselection to rebels (when he himself voted against the government while he was in it!) and Gove suggesting they might just ignore legislation passed in the Commons.
Think he's starting to realise this governing malarkey is harder than he expected cos he can't just do what he wants. He is coming across as very Trump like but with a posh accent and a better vocabulary.
If an election is called I think he might win against Corbyn - it'd be a microcosm of current politics - one extreme against the other.
No I wasn’t - I said Corbyn won’t support it. So now if he gets the chance and refused then he’s dead
What of course as I also said he will do is call a vote of no confidence in his own government by the end of the week - look at the Labour Party tonight they are spinning and swivelling and haven’t a clue how to act
Er because that’s parliamentary protocol? The government are not able to do so under the fixed parliament act
You said only Corbyn could call it as per the fixed term parliament act.
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