Are you looking at polls which just show voter intention and extrapolating that into a seat majority? As anything I’ve seen where it’s broken down by Seat makes it look a lot tighter.
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If he calls an election they will have done some significant research to be confident they have a good chance of winning.
Of course but even plenty of leave voters consider no deal toxic.
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I don’t doubt it and I’m sure they also intend to bend/break the rules while thinking they’ll win and burry and investigation later.
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Thing is, the swing during a campaign can throw things. Milliband was supposed to be leading a minority government, then May was supposed to be increasing her majority - neither played out.If he calls an election they will have done some significant research to be confident they have a good chance of winning.
All parties bend and break spending rules. Stop playing the victim
Yeah right? Great response. So what part of my post was incorrect?Yeah, right.
They won’t be doing that
The greens did last time.
Yeah right? Great response. So what part of my post was incorrect?
Are you saying that the link you provided doesn't contradict what you have been saying or is it that Shmmeee didn't say May did an amazing job....or that you didn't agree with him?
So which part was wrong then?
The greens in a general election are an irrelevance and their vote would probably go to the undems anyway and there is no way that they will form a pre election pact with labour
It now seems that labour will refuse the election so despite Tony and BSB insisting the government can call one they cannot
Because it can also be done if 2/3 of the Commons agree to the motion. Corbyn wanted one as well so it happened. G has it wrong yet again
Correct. The government can put it to the commons to a vote and a two thirds majority will trigger a general election which is what May did. The opposition can’t do this. The opposition can only force a general election through a vote of no confidence.
So when Grendull says it’s for the opposition to call an election because of the fixed term parliament act he’s being disingenuous. As is Boris when he claimed he wants and believes that he can do a deal. If he had the conviction of his words he’d be looking to call for a democratic vote in Parliament to put parliament to the democratic vote of the people. Instead a PM that only 0.3% of the population voted for is doing the least democratic thing he can.
Someone has changed their tune again. Only yesterday you were confirming that the government can call an election and denied saying that only the opposition could call one.
We both also pointed out to you that the government needs a two thirds majority in the commons to call an election in reply to you claiming that there was no mechanism for the government to call an election and it was only the opposition that could. There was no insisting of anything, just a correcting of your misinformation. Something you flip flopped less than 24hrs ago to confirm, before flip flopping back again.
No Tony I didn’t.
I also have pointed out how the government can get around this if they wish. Oh and regarding your 25 day rule Laura Keunsberg in an interview with a political expert has said the PM is in total control of the election date due to the way the legislation is worded and can even agree an early election and then change it.
Yes you did. I quoted your posts again just yesterday where you claimed it was only the opposition that could trigger one under the fixed term parliament act. My response was how did May do it? At which point Brighton jumped in with his reply quoted again above. It’s your words against your words I’m afraid, not mine.
It is only the opposition through a no confidence vote. May didn’t trigger an election that was beyond her powers she had to request one,
No wonder astute has a field day with you. Your comprehension levels are zero
Posts back in 2016 took seconds to findSo liking a post is a full on endorsement now? That took a full 15 seconds to find.
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Hopefully the brexit party and tories can come together to stop Corbyn if we have another GE
I have given up with him. All I want is a debate. But a debate is the last thing some on here want.It is only the opposition through a no confidence vote. May didn’t trigger an election that was beyond her powers she had to request one,
No wonder astute has a field day with you. Your comprehension levels are zero
I think Tony should replace Andrew Marr and we have the Tony show - he seems to know more than every political and constitutional expert I’ve read up on in the last few days
Ironically you’re now agreeing with me and Brighton while saying we’ve got it wrong.
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Both them quotes are from personal views. No lies involved. They said what they felt. And I have continually said about what other peeple feel or what it does to them. You liked posts with lies in them.
That is the difference between the two of us.
No Tony you genuinely lack comprehension and understanding
Yeah, they’re on page 1 and 2, 2 only 2 clicks away.
Using your logic you’ve endorsed those views too.
Did you see any comeback from my comment?
So I can't understand what is going on? Who was it that has constantly had a go at me for saying about the consequences to people and districts in the remaining EU countries? And what was the link this same person supplied for us to read? Oh yes it was you totally contradicting everything you have been saying for ages.
Or shall we try Shmmeee saying that May did an amazing job? You and others agreed with him. Yet not one of you has even tried to say in any way what she did was amazing. Nobody has even tried to say what she did was even good.
Me childish? Me not understanding what is happening? You need to look at yourself and those who you frequently agree with.
Are you looking at polls which just show voter intention and extrapolating that into a seat majority? As anything I’ve seen where it’s broken down by Seat makes it look a lot tighter.
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There are no models out there for this. Any seat level prediction is basically a guess at this point. Too many variables:
- What will Farage tell his acolytes to do?
- What will sensible Tories do?
- What will anti-Corbyn remainers in Con/Lab marginals do?
- Has Corbyn seen his bounce?
- What sort of campaigner is Johnson?
- How reliably will leave voters turn out?
- What’s the geographic split of each party?
Any of those could swing it one way or another.
Well there are models it’s the veracity of them that is at question. As I said above it’s going to be an extraordinarily complex election where many seats will be unpredictable.
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Says the man who disagrees with someone by agreeing with them, after disagreeing with them. Several times. Just need to check the time to see if it’s time for you to change your opinion again. 12 hour clock should be fine.
I mean tested models. We’ve basically turned politics on its head. No one even knows if the 2017 models still apply, and they’ve barely been tested.
If I had to guess I’d say another hung parliament. The essential problem of a 50:50 split across the country hasn’t gone anywhere.
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