Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I was called ‘a mug’ on here for suggesting it would take decades - haha!
Anyone who thinks extracting yourself from a 40 year political union should be over quickly is delusional.
We won’t be done with this in our lifetimes.
Anyone who thinks extracting yourself from a 40 year political union should be over quickly is delusional.
We won’t be done with this in our lifetimes.
Long term for them is a few years. How many teenagers think much more long term than that? Most haven't even decided what they want to do for a living. But offer them incentives for the next few years and you will get their vote. Just like the majority of people. Otherwise it would be a waste of time any political party putting anything forward to the electorate.Come on - if anyone is likely to vote with a more long term thinking it's students.
Joke being they hide the truth when they know some are breaking international laws even when it is killing people. Then they fine the countries where the people are getting killed.Joke being that the EU is against some forms of state intervention to ensure a level playing field for companies. But G doesn’t like the evil EU.
It isn't a 40 year political union.Anyone who thinks extracting yourself from a 40 year political union should be over quickly is delusional.
We won’t be done with this in our lifetimes.
Long term for them is a few years. How many teenagers think much more long term than that? Most haven't even decided what they want to do for a living. But offer them incentives for the next few years and you will get their vote. Just like the majority of people. Otherwise it would be a waste of time any political party putting anything forward to the electorate.
That is unless you always vote Tory or Labour because you do.
That's my point - they're no more likely to vote for short term incentives than anyone else, but if anything they'll have more of an eye on the long term future because it'll impact them the most - youngsters are far more likely to put things like the environment higher on their list of issues than any other age group. They may not have decided what they want to do but a lot of them will be thinking about it and those that are will be thinking in more general terms as they're exploring different avenues.
They vote for the party that offers free student education and that’s it.
What about the 70% that don’t go to university?
They vote for the party that offers free student education and that’s it.
Have you read Sky Blue Dreamers post or again are you experiencing comprehension issues and are being the annoying schoolboy at the back?
Don't forget they must also be able to afford a new mobile phone every 6 months for even better selfies, something many of us never had the benefit of.Do they really? So when they're doing vox-pops on the news and you see them talking about jobs and being able to afford a property in future I assume that's older people with make-up?
Which party do you think students vote for btw?
Don't forget they must also be able to afford a new mobile phone every 6 months for even better selfies, something many of us never had the benefit of.
Noooooooooo !Because they weren't invented then
It isn't a 40 year political union.
We joined a common market. Our voice has slowly been taken away. It isn't a political union. The next step down from those deciding what happens is the political level. And most do as they are told.
It's actually embarrassing that after over 3 years people are still talking about this like its a commercial negotiation where the other party has a range of positions it might bargain.
This simplism is why we're marching towards fascism.
Environmental issues yes as long as they've still got a top.notch mobile phone first and foremost and enough money for a regular dominos and Starbucks.That's my point - they're no more likely to vote for short term incentives than anyone else, but if anything they'll have more of an eye on the long term future because it'll impact them the most - youngsters are far more likely to put things like the environment higher on their list of issues than any other age group. They may not have decided what they want to do but a lot of them will be thinking about it and those that are will be thinking in more general terms as they're exploring different avenues.
Just think, if the old had access to as varied an amount of media as the young, they wouldn't be stuck in a rut with their longing for the days when Britain was Great, and we stuck it to the Hun. They wouldn't have to rely on a select amount of duplicitous newspapers that are economical with the truth, and they might be more open-minded about the future of the country and what's best for it, rather than who gives them a free TV license.Because they weren't invented then
How old are you ?Just think, if the old had access to as varied an amount of media as the young, they wouldn't be stuck in a rut with their longing for the days when Britain was Great, and we stuck it to the Hun. They wouldn't have to rely on a select amount of duplicitous newspapers that are economical with the truth, and they might be more open-minded about the future of the country and what's best for it, rather than who gives them a free TV license.
Nor would they be so negative and paranoid with conspiracy theories over foreigners, as they'd be able to see that, in the main, they're just people, and not people who want to grasp for every free handout, taking away from the righteous and just ne'er do wells that we breed ourselves, with a long tradition in laziness and selfishness.
(Seriously, is this where we've got to? Tarring whole swathes of people with random accusations, and deciding their vote isn't as valuable? We may as well install William as Crown Prince dictator now and be done with it if that's the case)
Young enough not to have lost my marbles, old enough to be able to vote, intelligent enough to have developed the power of critical thought.How old are you ?
Absolutely perfect then. At what age does the law of diminishing returns kick in then in terms of overall usefulness/ a burden ?Young enough not to have lost my marbles, old enough to be able to vote, intelligent enough to have developed the power of critical thought.
Don't forget they must also be able to afford a new mobile phone every 6 months for even better selfies, something many of us never had the benefit of.
I'm assuming you're much younger than me. Its bloody shameful youngsters can't afford property. The world's gone backwards.Mate. Yearly phone upgrades is soooo 2015.
And I’d swap every piece of consumer electronics I’ve ever owned for an affordable family home.
It reminds me of that exceedingly richer character in Harry Enfield "Yow don't have to speak the lingo, the only language these people understand is the language of money"Incredible, isn’t it? People seem to have bought into the position that it’s like bartering for Knick knacks on holiday and if only we are more demanding and daring we’ll somehow get some remarkable concession.
If I hear the analogy of buying a car one more time I’ll fucking scream. If this is the analogy then no deal is demanding you get a discount else you’ll shit your pants in the show room. Sure, it’s not ideal for the dealer but it’s worse for you. Not only will have to leave you previous car there you’re walking home with shit in your pants.
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Environmental issues yes as long as they've still got a top.notch mobile phone first and foremost and enough money for a regular dominos and Starbucks.
Don't forget they must also be able to afford a new mobile phone every 6 months for even better selfies, something many of us never had the benefit of.
They vote for the party that offers free student education and that’s it.
Lots. You ?How many people below 30 do you actually know?
So most young people then. Not generalising of courseNot generalising again are we? Most brand new mobiles go to business people partly for the improvement but mostly for the image.
Of the younger generation the ones most likely to spend on stuff like new phones are the non-students. The TOWIE/Geordie Shore lot.
So most young people then. Not generalising of course
Originally the group under discussion were students - we were talking about them voting for whoever would offer free education. You then deflected from that by going on about mobile phones.
I was pointing out that those youngsters that do tend to buy new tech are non-students. I also pointed out that the vast amount of top new tech is bought by businesses or business people.
30 years ago many young people thought it was s great idea to vote for a party backing CND and leaving Europe
Good for them.
Then they grew up
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