Actually incorrect.
Noel's deal or no deal what introduced after the referendum.
The referendum was a clear in/out option.
Boris deal will get through today if its voted on!! Apparently up to 15 labour mps will back it
Literally this!! Its a remainers parliament who will stop at nothing to cancel brexit
So why are you coming back at me with a response suggesting that I am trying to re-write the meaning of the word veto???
All I have claimed is that you shot yourself in the foot because from day 1 post referendum result you have claimed time & time again that leavers were either along the lines of being nationalistic or ignorant & didn't know what they were voting for. You seemed to to be trying to deny that what I said was true, then when I said it was a stated goal...I suspect you went & looked it up...then come back with distractions about veto shit.
Not sure why you can't just acknowledge it is a goal of the EU which you appear at least to be sketchy about....& therefore it could be levelled that you & other remainers did not actually know what you were voting for if you were voting for things to stay the same - because change within the EU is just as certain as change outside of it.
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So why did Farage/Alexander/JRM/Gove go around talking about keeping aspects like the SM etc? The deal or no deal has come about because of what the leave campaign put forward during the Brexit campaign.
So why did Farage/Alexander/JRM/Gove go around talking about keeping aspects like the SM etc? The deal or no deal has come about because of what the leave campaign put forward during the Brexit campaign.
FWIW I am in agreement with you that to leave the EU should have meant no deal. But it's due to the leave campaign that it wasn't seen as such by the public.
there is no such thing as no deal
Actually incorrect.
Noel's deal or no deal what introduced after the referendum.
The referendum was a clear in/out option.
See link already provided in the post above from the official leave campaign to see what out was promised.Actually incorrect.
Noel's deal or no deal what introduced after the referendum.
The referendum was a clear in/out option.
This is analysis from a particular viewpoint of one side of the referendum debate.
The referendum was always a constitutional question.
Never an economical or political one.
This is analysis from a particular viewpoint of one side of the referendum debate.
The referendum was always a constitutional question.
Never an economical or political one.
I've read it.
Are you saying it was Government policy to do what either camp said on winning?
I've read it.
Are you saying it was Government policy to do what either camp said on winning?
Yeahhhh lets block the vote for a deal which will probably pass, idiotsYay. Parliamentary sovereignty is alive and well. Just like the leavers voted for. I suspect they’ll be delighted by this decision.
Meant to be impartial... yet admits voting to remain in 2016
Now he is deliberately trying to delay the brexit vote knowing other amendments can be made to it first.... absolute joker
Yeahhhh lets block the vote for a deal which will probably pass, idiots
The man needs a stint in prison so he can appreciate what freedom means. He doesn't really appreciate how hated he already was before this.Meant to be impartial... yet admits voting to remain in 2016
Now he is deliberately trying to delay the brexit vote knowing other amendments can be made to it first.... absolute joker
How on earth do you come up with such stuff as this ?The government should stick to the process that was passed on Saturday then and stop delaying the final vote on the deal by trying to put the cart before horse. You do realise that it’s the leave government that is taking the piss out of you and no one else?
Yeahhhh lets block the vote for a deal which will probably pass, idiots
I didn't bring up vetos Tony - you did...in some extremely obtuse way of acknowledging something that you must have though was wrong!Given that I acknowledged the policy by confirming we had a veto on it and you’ve then gone on to accusing me of denying that there’s any such policy I think that I’m justified in accusing you of rewriting the meaning of the word veto because actually you’ve done it twice now.
The only reason the legislation was put in on Saturday was to allow a first amendment to it
The deal will now not be allowed to be voted on until grieve and co see what other amendments they can tag onto it. This will be a second referendum if they have the numbers or a customs union (more likely)
It’s a laughable state of affairs - then the government has to refuse to re introduce the deal as it’s not the deal that was initially put forward
back to square one
Lot of people desperate to repeat the governments propaganda lines today. Precedent is sacred one minute then to be discarded the moment it suits their case.
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You have to doubt it don’t you. It seems as though the government is still playing silly games and are setting their own deal up to fail so we can leave without a deal “accidentally”.
I don’t believe this is the case at all Tony (it’s also in the hands of the house whether it gets through or not)
Your earlier post is correct though, the government will go through the legislation voting route so it doesn’t make a major difference whether Bercow allowed a vote today or not (he was never going to). Not sure what harm it would’ve done to have allowed a vote today mind.
I think your confused and mean Mr Bercow. I don’t care. Every one of these absurd interventions increases the chance of a Tory government at the next election
Im still waiting on your answers by the way.
he wants to wait until the opposition decide what amendment to tag onto the Letwin bill
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