Any chance of you keeping to the truth?Yes, to remind him. Real wages have contracted because of inflation, and unemployment is forecast to have risen in June and the trend is expected to continue.
Open to anyone who looks like they are from the EUWe don't have open borders, you go through passport control. Also, an EU national has 3 months to find a job before the country has the power to deport them.
Lots of jobs= well done the EUOur parliament ratified the treaties. We have a parliamentary democracy. Our parliament passes all laws and they evolve constantly. According to your argument we never voted on any of our laws because a referendum wasn't held on each law.
We now have more trade with Europe and more people in work than ever before in our history. The EU seems to have been a great help to get us to this point. If we close the borders to pre 1993 conditions, I suspect we would decline from this position..
I've already listed the numerous lies the remain campaign told on here. The motivation for a lot of remain voters was not a love of the EU but a fear based on statements of economic meltdown immediately after the decision to leave was made.
Open to anyone who looks like they are from the EU
Lots of jobs= well done the EU
Low pay= nothing to do with the EU
You also claimed that the right was growing rapidly in Germany and that Merkel was extremely unpopular. AfD got 6% in the latest state election and is at 9% in the polls. Merkel's party is 17 points in front of their nearest challengers. So I think it may be that you base your judgements on the people you associate with in your bubble and therefore your opinions should be taken with a pinch of salt.
So how many get removed after 3 months? They don't even know who has been here for more than 3 months without working.We don't have open borders, you go through passport control. Also, an EU national has 3 months to find a job before the country has the power to deport them.
Borders will only close if the EU want them to....as in punishment for us wanting to leave the EU. Tariffs will only be charged if the EU says so....for punishment for us leaving.Our parliament ratified the treaties. We have a parliamentary democracy. Our parliament passes all laws and they evolve constantly. According to your argument we never voted on any of our laws because a referendum wasn't held on each law.
We now have more trade with Europe and more people in work than ever before in our history. The EU seems to have been a great help to get us to this point. If we close the borders to pre 1993 conditions, I suspect we would decline from this position..
Yes of course it is the case that some of my judgements are made based on the people I meet, do business with and socialise with in Germany, Italy and many other countries. So what? Isn’t that human nature?
Does that make my judgements any less valid than say yours, which are no doubt also influenced by the people you associate with, that is to say the blokes you talk to in the German pub you run?
I haven't got a problem with that but I imagine you will accept that your opinions should also be taken with a appropriately measured pinch of salt?
The difference being that I quoted statistics to back my point up. Actually I am not in the pub that often as I have another business, and I tend to keep off religion and politics when there is alcohol about....;-) My staff do.
the service in the pub....they are younger and better looking than me...
Borders will only close if the EU want them to....as in punishment for us wanting to leave the EU. Tariffs will only be charged if the EU says so....for punishment for us leaving.
The EU don't want us to leave. They get too much money off us for them to replace easily. And after paying out many billions each year we buy much more from the EU than we sell to it.
Whooaa!!!! had to stop myself there. For the first time ever I almost gave your post a 'like'.
Surely the EU will miss our money?
So how many get removed after 3 months? They don't even know who has been here for more than 3 months without working.
But I don't see why anyone should be kicked out after 3 months without working anyway. But it is a different matter if someone only comes for the benefits.
And on the subject of benefits....why should someone be able to claim child benefit for children who were not born here and don't live here? And why should they keep them even if the whole family leaves the UK?
Any chance of you keeping to the truth?
The jobless total has fallen to 4.5%. The lowest for 42 years. The amount of people in work is the highest since records began in 1971.
Wages are so low partly because of the influx of people. But you are never going to admit this
Mass migration driving down wages offered to British jobseekers
So how many get removed after 3 months? They don't even know who has been here for more than 3 months without working.
But I don't see why anyone should be kicked out after 3 months without working anyway. But it is a different matter if someone only comes for the benefits.
And on the subject of benefits....why should someone be able to claim child benefit for children who were not born here and don't live here? And why should they keep them even if the whole family leaves the UK?
You are allowed to claim it where you want. Once claimed the payments continue even if you never visit the country again. It costs us over 20m a year IIRC.I thought that child allowance is a sort of tax credit and is paid in the country where you are paying tax, not where your children are living.
No it didn't. I quoted the June figures.Jobless just risen in June and predicted to rise in July. Albeit by a small percentage....for now. Trend expected to continue as inflation cuts in...
You are allowed to claim it where you want. Once claimed the payments continue even if you never visit the country again. It costs us over 20m a year IIRC.
Thieving for one :shy:As we've discussed before, that's the Uk's fault and not the EU's. If other EU countries can manage it, why can't the UK?
How wold they be supporting themselves if they weren't working for 3 months?
Thieving for one :shy:
You are allowed to claim it where you want. Once claimed the payments continue even if you never visit the country again. It costs us over 20m a year IIRC.
No it didn't. I quoted the June figures.
I couldn't claim it in England when my daughter was there at school because she is registered in Germany ( going to school for a year didn't change her residency) and I pay tax in Germany. I couldn't claim in the UK as a German taxpayer. You can only claim in one country. There was no point anyway as in the case of Germany there is not much difference in the child allowance to the UK.
The difference is with e.g. Rumanians etc.. Then I see why they are doing it, and yes that should be reformed so that if they are entitled to it, it should be paid at the rate where the child lives as that is linked more to what the child actually needs - not that they make a profit on the deal.
Could the UK not close this loophole themselves?
No it didn't. I quoted the June figures.
Thieving for one :shy:
Any statistics on that?
Why bother? When you start actually looking at statistics many arguments can be diffused. Earlier in this long long thread we were told the NHS would close down without EU workers. So care to estimate out of 1.2 million workers have many are from the EU?
Mark my words...that knd of reasoning in the world of Sales is met with a 'but how well could you have done if...' in an admonishing tone. In other words had we been out of the EU we might have been 2ndCan you explain how the UK became the 5th largest economies, despite being in the evil EU?
Mark my words...that knd of reasoning in the world of Sales is met with a 'but how well could you have done if...' in an admonishing tone. In other words had we been out of the EU we might have been 2nd
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Ahhhh...yes I forgot that there are British people queuing up to become nurses. What attraction is there to work for such poor pay and in such terrible conditions?
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