I'm a massive 'remoaner' but I'm prepared to say Junker is a twat. One man doesn't make an organisation though, he's head of the commission which can pass no legislation without putting it through the, directly elected, EU parliament.
Could we have someone better in his position? Yes, definitely.
Does that warrant abandoning the whole thing? No.
Like Greece and others that have gone backwards since joining?But the point of that is those countries take more to develop their economy and infrastructure. Once they do there will be no need to divert funds to them and there will be much more money to be made all round through trade.
Like Greece and others that have gone backwards since joining?
Try and explain this away instead of ignoring it then.
The Greek government cooked their books, how is that the fault of the EU?
In 2012 the Greek government cutoff welfare and pension payments to 200,000 people found to not actually qualify for benefits. The crackdown was do in large part to pressure from the European Union and IMF to fix the welfare system.
According to the IMF, pensions account for around 17 percent of the country’s GDP. The spending on pensions is among the highest in the European Union. The pensions require very large state subsidies.
But the point of that is those countries take more to develop their economy and infrastructure. Once they do there will be no need to divert funds to them and there will be much more money to be made all round through trade.
They went tits.up after joining the Euro.The Greek government cooked their books, how is that the fault of the EU?
Explain this as we keep raising it.(my emphasis)
I'm looking forward to us leaving the EU, and our statutory retirement age plunging downwards... Damn those technocrats for suggesting that's not sustainable.
They went tits.up after joining the Euro.
If it was down to the Greek government why didn't the EU check before opening the blank checkbook?
And money goes to Italy so they can dodge tax? Shows how bad the EU system is if you are being truthful.The overwhelming majority of Italians dodge paying proper taxes due to a collective mindset. Damn the EU!
How did we have lower unemployment then than we do now then?They were long in trouble before joining the euro, ffs
They went tits.up after joining the Euro.
If it was down to the Greek government why didn't the EU check before opening the blank checkbook?
They were long in trouble before joining the euro, ffs
But it was made much worse by joining the Euro.They were long in trouble before joining the euro, ffs
Well you seem to be suggesting he, as an Englishman, doesn't understand what goes on in England...But I suppose you know more than they do.
Like Greece and others that have gone backwards since joining?
The Greek government were basically forced into the euro zone by Goldman Sachs and big businesses and big banks.
The government of today in Greece have admitted to not should of joined the euro. It's ruined them. They can't recover.
More made up rubbish.Well you seem to be suggesting he, as an Englishman, doesn't understand what goes on in England...
And money goes to Italy so they can dodge tax? Shows how bad the EU system is if you are being truthful.
I'll tell my Greek neighbours that people that have never lived in Greece know what happened better than they do.Greece has not gone backwards though. It had a good run until the finance crisis which hit it more than others because it cheated - with help of others - to get into the Euro. It was always weak. The strongest part being shipping which had tax privileges, and tourism where loads of business was black.
I'm not saying it's been perfect and they couldn't have done many things differently. The way Greece has been treated is appalling. I do however believe that, given time, the richest union in the world will find a way to make it work. You may disagree but neither of us can say for certain, anybody that claims to is lying.Like Greece and others that have gone backwards since joining?
I'm not saying it's been perfect and they couldn't have done many things differently. The way Greece has been treated is appalling. I do however believe that, given time, the richest union in the world will find a way to make it work. You may disagree but neither of us can say for certain, anybody that claims to is lying.
How do you define "the richest union in the world"?
I am not wholly critical of the EU.@Astute you said that you voted remain but thought this thread (recently at least, I can't be bothered to look back) you seem to be wholly critical of the EU. What were your reasons for voting remain?
They have reached such a low point that the Greek people can't see a way out.I'm not saying it's been perfect and they couldn't have done many things differently. The way Greece has been treated is appalling. I do however believe that, given time, the richest union in the world will find a way to make it work. You may disagree but neither of us can say for certain, anybody that claims to is lying.
The whole world should be able to have free trade. It would benefit all. But Juncker wants you to join his club for it to happen.Don't you find it odd that all of these countries around the world are keen to do a free trade deal with a crumbling bloc with so much debt?
The whole world should be able to have free trade. It would benefit all. But Juncker wants you to join his club for it to happen.
They have reached such a low point that the Greek people can't see a way out.
I am off to Greece next week. Lovely people lovely place. But it isn't the place it was just a few years ago.
Record number of tourists... actuallyin making plus at the moment. Profiting from the make Turkey great again from Erdogan..
I'm sure I read that Greece is slowly turning the corner towards actual sustainable growth?
The whole world should be able to have free trade. It would benefit all. But Juncker wants you to join his club for it to happen.
Ahhh yes, Britain was supposed to be the first to leave the crumbling bloc. What happened to the Brexiteers' predictions of Austria, Holland and France joining them? If anything, Brexit will make the EU even more unified.
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