Grendel
Well-Known Member
The vast majority of Northern Ireland think remaining in the uk is far more important than remaining in the EU.
All Irish people I know think that the Brits created the border problem in the first place and are now doing it again. I know no Irish person who thinks that Brexit is a good idea. ( I think Grendel may be of Irish descent, but I don't know him - apart from on here ).
The vast majority of Northern Ireland think remaining in the uk is far more important than remaining in the EU.
Not amongst any of the Irish people I know. They were admiring of the UK public's vote to leave. Remember they voted against the Lisbon treaty first time around.
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That's why even unionists have been getting Irish passports and they voted to remain overall. Chances are NI will remain in the customs union.
You've totally skirted round the point I've made. It's ridiculous even discussing it really
None of my family or anyone I know in Ireland think it's a good idea. It has something like 80% approval rating of the EU.
The vast majority of Northern Ireland think remaining in the uk is far more important than remaining in the EU.
Freedom of movement is a big issue for the UK. The reality is that it leads to wage suppression. Supply of foreign labour needs regulating.
How come Britain still doesn't know what it wants
The EU is not to blame for Britain's unpreparedness. They have had well over a year to tell us specifically a. what they want from the EU).
I come from an Irish family so it's hardly a surprise, is it?Amazing how many personal life experiences you can quote to "support" your argument.
What exactly is your point based on? What evidence?
You truly are a disgrace - we should pay want we contractually owe and that's it. If there isn't an instant formula to calculate that and an agreement by all members when signing treaties of their obligations then we should just abandon negotiations and walk away. German car prices will instantly rise and sales will be lost in their highest profit market. Let's see who comes back to the negotiating table then shall we.
There was a large poll of voters across all religious and political spectrums - 7% wanted union with the Republic - 7%. More said they'd consider this in 20 years but even then 60% said no under any circumstances. So you're notion that this will lead to a unified Ireland is complete drivel I'm afraid.
Got a link to it? I haven't mentioned a unified Ireland, have I? Although I do think long-term it will happen.
What happened to your respect for other opinions and beliefs that you were bleating on about recently?
What's your view on Catalonia?
That is disputed - or at least whether it makes significant difference.
Yes, but they voted remain when asked on that topic.
How could you possibly be in a position to know that the UK negotiating team is unprepared or doesn't know what it wants? You're just lapping up the EU propaganda and repeating it parrot fashion on here.
The lack of progress in the talks has nothing to do with the UK's unpreparedness and everything to do with the fact that the EU want to humiliate and make an example of a nation who stuck two fingers up to them. Barnier is not negotiating, he's stonewalling. He's a clown, just like pisshead Junkers. As every week goes by their attitude and words confirm that this country made the right decision.
The PM bent over backwards in her Florence speech to try to get things moving. I believed at the time she went way too far way too early. It showed weakness. Now that her offers have been dismissed and thrown back at her, she should give them an ultimatum that unless significant progress is made on the EU's side by the end of the month, all the Florence offers are off the table. Walk away.
Oh better take that up with the Unite leader then as I was quoted him
I didn't know you believed left wing leaders...
How could you possibly be in a position to know that the UK negotiating team is unprepared or doesn't know what it wants? You're just lapping up the EU propaganda and repeating it parrot fashion on here.
The lack of progress in the talks has nothing to do with the UK's unpreparedness and everything to do with the fact that the EU want to humiliate and make an example of a nation who stuck two fingers up to them. Barnier is not negotiating, he's stonewalling. He's a clown, just like pisshead Junkers. As every week goes by their attitude and words confirm that this country made the right decision.
The PM bent over backwards in her Florence speech to try to get things moving. I believed at the time she went way too far way too early. It showed weakness. Now that her offers have been dismissed and thrown back at her, she should give them an ultimatum that unless significant progress is made on the EU's side by the end of the month, all the Florence offers are off the table. Walk away.
I don't but that's the view of the left - the view of the right - just dribbling Mr Euro wants to stay and his ratings are now alongside ukip at 6% - were leaving and the sooner the better.
By a much smaller margin than the unity issue with Britain - 100,000 and 7 areas voted leave.
The vast majority of Northern Ireland think remaining in the uk is far more important than remaining in the EU.
The unity with Britain hasn't been really tested since 1973 when the catholics boycotted the referendum.
1 member is negotiating leaving on it's own. The rest, 27, are being represented by the EU negotiating team led by Barnier.
Undecided. Some say it's a distraction used by right wing populists. But, I don't know enough to have an "educated" opinion.
Amazing how many personal life experiences you can quote to "support" your argument.
Freedom of movement is a big issue for the UK. The reality is that it leads to wage suppression. Supply of foreign labour needs regulating.
The government can raise the minimum and living wage anytime they want can't they?
You think companies are paying Eastern European migrants the living wage? Why not just employ British if they are.
You think companies are paying Eastern European migrants the living wage? Why not just employ British if they are.
Christ are you thick, ignorant or both? The Irish will not leave the uk and if brexit happens so be it - they will gladly accept that as a consequence of remaining in the uk. Oddly old Marxist Nicola after her bluster post referendum went VERY silent. Why is that? We know why.
The government can raise the minimum and living wage anytime they want can't they?
Minimum wage is law. If they're not paying it then they stand to be taken to court. You assume that British people will always do the jobs that EU migrants will do. In the majority of cases they will and UK and EU workers will work side by side. When I worked on building sites I worked alongside many Eastern Europeans and we were on the same rates. The problem my trade had was a lack of qualified and skilled workers, this was made up with EU migrants. I know plenty of people who do warehouse work and work alongside EU immigrants all on the same rate and better than minimum wage. I know a supervisor at one of the big warehouses in Rugby and they simply don't get enough UK applicants to fill their workforce. Then you have service sectors, again can't get UK applicants. Then you get seasonal farm work, again, where are these UK applicants willing to do the job?
I never claimed that EU migrants are all earning the living wage, some are and better but even then the point still stands. Who's surpressing wages in the UK when we have a minimum and living wage that the government can raise at will?
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