So you think that the EU should interfere like they do now but not when a nations police attack the people living there?So now you want the EU to get involved in domestic politics? Make your mind up!
If Britain becomes a 3rd country you'll be able enter so many days out of the 365. Believe it or nor but other EU citizens holiday in the EU as well and they have wealth. The world does not revolve around Britain.
After all, a lot of the British immigrants in Spain don't learn the language, don't integrate, and seem to keep themselves to themselves.
So you think that the EU should interfere like they do now but not when a nations police attack the people living there?
So they can have freedom of movement but they can't have freedom to vote in their own country because the police will attack them. Freedom of speech has been taken away from them.
So when is the EU ever any use to the people in it?
I support anyone who would stop the police being able to attack people.As a neutral you should already know the answer. The matter is a Spanish domestic matter, not one of the EU. If you support the EU intervening in domestic policy, fair enough but I don't to that extent.
You have been reading too much pro EU crap.
If the EU had the people as it's best intentions it would all go well. But they are more interested in the gravy train continuing. They don't care about the Spanish getting attacked by the police. Catalonia generates over 25% of Spains wealth. Spain would be an even bigger basket case without Catalonia. So the EU does nothing.
So you think that the EU won't allow us to holiday throughout the EU when many depend on us going there? Or we won't be able to live there if we can afford it? As in not work but spend our wealth there?
Yes, but imagine what the company Tony works for would do.
They export I believe? What impact would it have on their competitiveness abroad?
Would they invest in more automation and release people?
When they hired people, would they take a risk on a school leaver, or would they rather bring in experienced and skilled people from outside the UK?
What would happen with inflation? How would that impact the unemployed, who might now find it even more difficult to find work?
I'm not against a minimum wage per se, although I prefer a free market which can find its own level. I prefer lots of competition in the jobs market so that wages find the correct level for the economy.
My point is, if one can imagine the economic consequences of a crazy number like £50 per hour, and one accepts that there isn't a magic number at which suddenly these consequences ignite (it happens gradually - a small move in minimum wage causes a small change in the economy), then one can understand that there could be negative impacts from a rise of some 50%+ to £10.
I support anyone who would stop the police being able to attack people.
If police were attacking people because their government told them to and they were outside the EU they would be allowed to move to the EU as they would be seen as being in danger. It happens in what should be a civilised country and they don't want to know.
But they do want money off them.
So now you want the EU to get involved in domestic politics? Make your mind up!
If Britain becomes a 3rd country you'll be able enter so many days out of the 365. Believe it or nor but other EU citizens holiday in the EU as well and they have wealth. The world does not revolve around Britain.
After all, a lot of the British immigrants in Spain don't learn the language, don't integrate, and seem to keep themselves to themselves.
£10,00 is not a crazy number though and it would get people off benefit support. If it were enforced properly it would stop companies undercutting British workers. Millions of people would have more spending power. People higher up the food chain would over a short period of time get more money. Tax revenue would grow. Your pint and basic things like haircuts, bread, taxis would become more expensive - but poorer people would have more cash. Agree that too much is also bad, but a tenner before deductions is not crazy money.
You chat worse shit as the weeks go by. Typical of your moronic argument you quickly try and insinuate that opponents to your viewpoint must be xenophobic or racist, just as many of the Remain campaigners have done all along. Firstly where have I said 'Emigrate' ?? Secondly, where have I said anywhere I don't 'Like' foreigners ??It is a bit ironic that Ashdown wants to emigrate to Spain whilst not liking EU policies or EU migrants. Still not so many foreigners there... oh wait....
What's the breakdown? I'm sure there are something like 250k Romanians in the UK now?
Not sure why you've suddenly lumped the 2 nationalities together now?
That's the issue. You and I are subsidising these companies to allow them to make huge profits.The big advantage I see is reducing in work benefits, which are effectively a subsidy for some companies.
That's the issue. You and I are subsidising these companies to allow them to make huge profits.
When the living wage was announced Whitbread said it would mean the cost being passed on to the customer across all their brands. Someone worked it out and the increase in wages was a fraction of 1% of their annual profits.
People who are working full time should not need benefits of any sort to be able to survive.
We agree with the problem, just not the solution. I believe that a soaring minimum wage will just inflate the problem back.
The Tories tried to solve the same problem by reducing in work credit. In my opinion, the problem will stay whilst we have no control of low-skilled immigration.
If you seriously reduce low skilled immigration and pay much higher wages as a result, you will not have enough staff and your prices would rise, demand would drop and you would close outlets either because of lack of staff or lack of demand. Helps no one long term. A properly enforced minimum wage that has a relationship to the fact that unskilled or semi skilled people are doing these jobs is preferable so as not to price the jobs out of the market yet making sure that people can earn enough to enjoy life and not to have to have subsidies.
German exports to the UK in 2016 were £104 billion , we sent £54 billion the other way !? I'm sure German industrialists will start to apply some leverage soon. They better not forget to keep sending my Erdinger though which I'm a tad partial too !
They've already said that preserving the integrity of the single market is more important.
German exports to the UK in 2016 were £104 billion , we sent £54 billion the other way !? I'm sure German industrialists will start to apply some leverage soon. They better not forget to keep sending my Erdinger though which I'm a tad partial too !
you got a link? I can't find anywhere putting the difference at 50 billion, even the express only has it at 25. Still substantial.
German firms told to prepare for a 'very hard' Brexityou got a link? I can't find anywhere putting the difference at 50 billion, even the express only has it at 25. Still substantial.
Yes, but imagine what the company Tony works for would do.
They export I believe? What impact would it have on their competitiveness abroad?
Would they invest in more automation and release people?
When they hired people, would they take a risk on a school leaver, or would they rather bring in experienced and skilled people from outside the UK?
What would happen with inflation? How would that impact the unemployed, who might now find it even more difficult to find work?
I'm not against a minimum wage per se, although I prefer a free market which can find its own level. I prefer lots of competition in the jobs market so that wages find the correct level for the economy.
My point is, if one can imagine the economic consequences of a crazy number like £50 per hour, and one accepts that there isn't a magic number at which suddenly these consequences ignite (it happens gradually - a small move in minimum wage causes a small change in the economy), then one can understand that there could be negative impacts from a rise of some 50%+ to £10.
The real point here is that it's utterly absurd for the eu not to agree a free trade deal without strings as it's in all members interests. The only reason they wouldn't would be anger and spite - not exactly the type of rational approach you want in your politicians.
German exports to the UK in 2016 were £104 billion , we sent £54 billion the other way !? I'm sure German industrialists will start to apply some leverage soon. They better not forget to keep sending my Erdinger though which I'm a tad partial too !
You'd be in a good position to assess anger and spite...... I don't think the EU parliament would ratify a deal based on anger and spite. You would have to have a significant majority of angry spiteful people to vote together against their rational judgement. The UK would have to have said or done something really bad to achieve that...... how is Boris getting on with his leadership plans btw?
How many free trade agreements do the eu have?
Dodging my question I see...
Oh no I'm building to an answer - how many?
Anger and spite?You'd be in a good position to assess anger and spite...... I don't think the EU parliament would ratify a deal based on anger and spite. You would have to have a significant majority of angry spiteful people to vote together against their rational judgement. The UK would have to have said or done something really bad to achieve that...... how is Boris getting on with his leadership plans btw?
You are the one that always dodges the same question. The same as others that has the same views as yourself.Dodging my question I see...
Anger and spite?
Juncker allowed companies to register in Luxembourg. They have many more companies registered than they have residents. Now the EU are looking into the lack of tax being paid by companies registered in Luxembourg. How happy do you think he is?
Spain are getting their police to attack their own residents. The reason for this? They don't want their residents to have freedom of speech or the right to vote.
Oh yes all is well in the EU.
Isn't it a bit ironic that you say we should continue to let anyone from the EU to come and live here although we already have a severe housing shortage when you don't even live here yourself.It is a bit ironic that Ashdown wants to emigrate to Spain whilst not liking EU policies or EU migrants. Still not so many foreigners there... oh wait....
And how about Juncker sorting out the tax dodge for companies registered in Luxembourg?I'm not sure many would agree that the EU should directly intervene in domestic affairs.
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