Why doesn't the EU want to sort it out now then?
So why does the EU refuse to talk about it then?Without a deal no side can guarantee anything.
Sick boy believes the eu have agreed on their side
Stop being childish. It is only the EU refusing to talk about it.?
I suppose the EU is to blame for the Irish border as well?
But are being bastards about everything else.Considering they talking about offering associate citizenship for UK residents in the UK, it's unlikely they are going to be bastards about it.
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I suppose the EU is to blame for the Irish border as well?
Basically you just want the uk to drop its trousers when junker comes knocking.
You'll be ok in Italy with their fine tradition of standing up against countries that oppose them
I see you've fallen into your usual trap of dated stereotyping.
Except those that enjoyed the fruits will be less fruitful...& become disenchanted. And if Britain begins to flourish they may want out of the EU too!Quite frankly Brexit could be a good move for the EU. Things will now start rolling. The budget will be scrutinised for savings and reforms will be pushed forward. Not all bad news.
In fairness...they have been wrong in the past as well as right.OBR downgrades it's UK forecasts for the next 5 years,
IMF called the UK a notable exception to an improving global outlook but it's meaningless, OK then!
I have been told that we should know who our local MEP is. It is the EU that is refusing to do a deal which guarantees the rights of EU citizens living elsewhere to where they come from. So what could be better than starting with your MEP?
Stop being childish. It is only the EU refusing to talk about it.
The EU want all rights recognised.
Actually the truth is that they are refusing to discuss the subject unless we pay them huge wads of cash.
Which sounds a lot like they're using them as bargaining chips to me.
On the other hand the PM asked last year that they be specifically excluded from negotiations and their status safeguarded but was rebuffed.
The EU won't come to any agreement on anything until they find out how much they can get out of us for leaving.It is the UK that want to deny some of the rights of EU citizens. Or as May she would have to look at certain aspects. The EU want all rights recognised.
The EU won't come to any agreement on anything until they find out how much they can get out of us for leaving.
It is May that has said she will come to an agreement with each country if she can if the EU won't come to any agreement.
So what makes you say that?The EU wants a sea border with the UK which would mean NI remains in the Customs Union. The UK doesn’t want that.
Proposals they refuse to talk about. Yet you are trying to pass the blame onto the UK.Actually the elected European parliament has passed a resolution asking for the UK to submit proposals to guarantee the rights and status or all of the 4.5 million.
May offered "safety" and "reassurance", not full citizenship. However I do believe that both sides should resolve to settle this ASAP.
So would you prefer her to be like the EU and refuse to have talks so residents can't make long term plans?Then it goes to show just how utterly clueless she is. Frightening stuff.
So what makes you say that?
The English channel is between us and the rest of Europe. You can't change that. The rest of it depends on if a deal can be made and what it consists of concerning trade. The less of a deal the more of a border.
If you know that the EU wants a solid border you also know that they don't want any kind of deal.
Proposals they refuse to talk about. Yet you are trying to pass the blame onto the UK.
The EU can fuck off if they want to cause any difficulties in Ireland. Customs union or not.Northern Ireland is a land border and there is no sea between them and the EU. The EU wants a sea border. That means no customs border with ROI. Can only be achieved if NI remains in the Customs Union.
Your bias is becoming a joke.May has been vague on the subject and you blame the EU who have been open.
Actually the truth is that they are refusing to discuss the subject unless we pay them huge wads of cash.
Which sounds a lot like they're using them as bargaining chips to me.
On the other hand the PM asked last year that they be specifically excluded from negotiations and their status safeguarded but was rebuffed.
Your bias is becoming a joke.
The EU has been open because they admit that they won't start talks until it is agreed how much we will pay them to leave. Yet May is vague because she has tried to say what will happen depending on what the EU does next?
Yet again it is the EU that is refusing to talk about anything but money. So they say that there are no advances in talks. Of course there are not. Just like what they want.It’s dead easy really. The EU wants the immediate problems solved. The things that worry their constituents. This includes the UK confirming that it will honor it’s commitments before it leaves and saying what will happen to EU citizens and putting
up a workable proposal for the border. Being vague and blaming the EU is merely deflecting. It is also because the cabinet is divided on how we do that.
I do not try and blame one side all the time. I have a go at all sides. I say that there is good and bad about both staying in and leaving.Says the man whose middle names include Bias and I Hate Juncker.
So would you prefer her to be like the EU and refuse to have talks so residents can't make long term plans?
Are you happy that the EU are refusing to have talks so you don't know if your partner can stay here or you can move to Verona as you plan?
The EU can fuck off if they want to cause any difficulties in Ireland. Customs union or not.
If they want to have talks like you say why haven't they happened?They have said they want to. I will be able to move over there as I have an Irish passport.
The problems in Ireland have all been created by Britain, nothing to do with the EU.
The EU wanting to create a border is the fault of the UK?The problems in Ireland have all been created by Britain, nothing to do with the EU.
I come from Irish descendants. I know what has gone on over the years. It isn't me who needs a history lesson.The EU was a great help to Ireland. Without the EU there would never have been the Celtic Tiger. Without us all being in the Eu protected by EU citizens rights and courts we would probably never had the GFA. The GFA has been put at risk by Brexit. People like the postal worker in Chatham that Bazza quoted as chomping at the bit to leave the EU has never given a millisecond thought to what Brexit actually entails, let alone the problems it creates for other people.
For British people to accuse the EU of causing problems with the Irish border is the biggest joke, if you can joke about Brexit, that I have heard up until now. I think Astute should start reading up on Irish history starting with the first Lord Lieutenant and his friends. He might see that the EU and even Juncker have nothing to do with the basic problems of a border in Ireland.
I do not try and blame one side all the time. I have a go at all sides. I say that there is good and bad about both staying in and leaving.
You?
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