Astute
Well-Known Member
Yes the 3 of you are.
Shall we get back to Schulz and what he wants to get into bed with Merkel?
Of course you don't.
Yes the 3 of you are.Still doing it then I see.
Yes the 3 of you are.
Shall we get back to Schulz and what he wants to get into bed with Merkel?
Of course you don't.
Bollocks. Why lie?They lose their VETO not their VOTE. In other words they accept the Parliament of MEPs and majority voting in the second chamber where they have voting rights but no veto.
So who has lost what vote? Please answer and not dodge the question.
Lets talk about it then as you didn't join in for 3 days.Priceless.
Lets talk about it then as you didn't join in for 3 days.
I've already said what I think. Are you going to start trying to force other people to speak about things they haven't done on other threads too? I see you've gone quiet on your ill thought of claims earlier.
More like the whole UK political scene.
Very similar to Germany but they need to offer much more than the Tories did.
When I put a link up at the time that I reminded you of?I've already said what I think. Are you going to start trying to force other people to speak about things they haven't done on other threads too? I see you've gone quiet on your ill thought of claims earlier.
Merkel doesn't want to force change on fellow EU members. But she wants to cling to power.No. Germany is very organised. The parties set out their wishes for a coalition contract. The FDP couldn’t get anywhere and left the talks. SPD is now speaking to CDU/CSU. It will end up as Grand Coalition Lite. Agree to work on something’s and let Parliament decide where they don’t agree.
Martcov has admitted he wants more powers to Europe and less powers to individual countries (or states as these countries lose their identity over time) he’s come clean and said it. Do you believe the same?
So as well as not joining in for a few days you also haven't read the thread?I will let him speak for himself rather than what you've claimed.
There is little chance of countries in the EU losing their identities and not convinced that it'll actually happen in how it's being presented on here.
I support greater EU integration though if done sensibly over time
So as well as not joining in for a few days you also haven't read the thread?
Merkel doesn't want to force change on fellow EU members. But she wants to cling to power.
So she has the choice. Join Schulz and force change through, lead a minority coalition or have another election. The EU has stated they want it sorted ASAP. And they are with Macron. They want to force change on fellow EU members.
Every news outlet ran with it.I see that the likelihood of this happening is actually pretty low but the Express are running with it quite a lot, so not surprised it's gained traction on here.
We are also told that Macron is very unpopular and won't last by posters on here.
They either accept it or leave. That is democracy for you.Which countries in the EU have said they want this ASAP?
Bollocks. Why lie?
Schulz fights for 'United States of Europe' by 2025
Or would you prefer the Guardian again where you wouldn't call it false news and admitted it was right.
So what does this mean?
I want a European constitutional treaty that creates a federal Europe," he said.
He said the treaty would be presented to EU member states for ratification, and those that reject it automatically should leave the bloc.
Even the Guardian ran with it. That was when Mart agreed it is true.Not properly, no. I've read actual news media though (not the Express).
They either accept it or leave. That is democracy for you.
A federal system of government consists of a group of regions that are controlled by a central government.Exactly that. What has that got to do with Juncker, Merkel, a German plot to rule Europe or “they” and who is losing a vote? Ratification usually involves party or people voting. I have said several times that I would vote for a federal Europe.
They either accept it or leave. That is democracy for you.
We got to vote on the matter. That is democracy. They get ruled by a central government or leave. That is blackmail.Yes. That is democracy. Same as either remain or leave. We’re leaving because we won’t accept e.g. free movement.
France, the EU and Germany if Merkel makes a coalition with Schulz. The rest have no say other than lose their vote or leave the EU. But you know this.So which countries are forcing it through? Why won't you answer the question?
Martcov has admitted he wants more powers to Europe and less powers to individual countries (or states as these countries lose their identity over time) he’s come clean and said it. Do you believe the same?
France, the EU and Germany if Merkel makes a coalition with Schulz. The rest have no say other than lose their vote or leave the EU. But you know this.
France, the EU and Germany if Merkel makes a coalition with Schulz. The rest have no say other than lose their vote or leave the EU. But you know this.
We got to vote on the matter. That is democracy. They get ruled by a central government or leave. That is blackmail.
We got to vote on the matter. That is democracy. They get ruled by a central government or leave. That is blackmail.
I said turning into a dictatorship. And this goes to show that I could well be 100% right after taking abuse off you and others for saying so. That must be why some of you are having a priblem admitting what is going on.You recently described the EU as a dictatorship, yet it is now democratic?
You're all over the place.
A federal system of government consists of a group of regions that are controlled by a central government.
So you want what Schulz wants.
Are you saying that we didn't have a vote to leave or stay in the EU as it now is?The central government is “they”. They are getting the same choice as you: remain with the new system or leave. They have just as much a vote as you. You chose to leave. The others may prefer the increased democracy for Europeans as opposed to sailing off into a glorious sunset, as you have chosen.
I said turning into a dictatorship. And this goes to show that I could well be 100% right after taking abuse off you and others for saying so. That must be why some of you are having a priblem admitting what is going on.
There is a massive difference between a federal government that rules one country and a federal government that rules 27 countries.Yes. I keep telling you that. I live in a federal country which is more democratic than yours at the moment. I am happy enough to be applying for citizenship of that country. There is nothing unusual or evil about federal states, or rather the more democratic ones such as Germany or Switzerland.
It will be soon if Schulz gets his way.You have tried to claim the EU is a country, so I'm not convinced by a lot of what you say.
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