dancers lance
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Boris is an idiot, but not a single person can comment on the way forward until we have negotiated the exit, if after all the talks we still have no idea what to do, then that is the time to worry, now is to early.
Boris is an idiot, but not a single person can comment on the way forward until we have negotiated the exit, if after all the talks we still have no idea what to do, then that is the time to worry, now is to early.It's more the total lack of ideas about what or how they intend to do anything.
It's almost like Johnson was only doing this for play and personal ambition without any foundation of policy... which wouldn't be like him at all.
Can we not have a trial by combat to decide like game of thrones?
can't go along with this, a smart politician would have anticipated Camerons resignation and u-turn on triggering article 50 for a start had had a contingency.We can't possibly know what to do next (and I understand that this scares people) until we start to negotiate with Europe and sit at the table with other non EU countries, we are four days in.
But the result would still be the same because the Welsh have all the dragons!Can we not have a trial by combat to decide like game of thrones?
They had all the answers last month!Boris is an idiot, but not a single person can comment on the way forward until we have negotiated the exit, if after all the talks we still have no idea what to do, then that is the time to worry, now is to early.
I the EU can't move quickly, they can only move when we formally notify them of our intent to leave, (they have no legal right to force this) and then they have give us 2 years under article 50, unless we chose to change our laws in this country and revoke legislation so we can speed up the process.can't go along with this, a smart politician would have anticipated Camerons resignation and u-turn on triggering article 50 for a start had had a contingency.
Boris seemed genuinely shocked so went off grid for a few hours then nipped out for a game of tennis.
A smart politician would have anticipated the EU wanting to move quickly, (especially as it seems spite is their main motivation), and would have had a rough idea of the negotiating teams thehy were going to put in place.
A basic framework for Brexit should have already been formulated.
that's my point, we have to trigger article 50. Cameron said he would do it immediately in the event of a leave vote, he reneged on this. Boris, (or some other prominent leaver), should have anticipated this could happen, that they didn't is quite worrying.I the EU can't move quickly, they can only move when we formally notify them of our intent to leave, (they have no legal right to force this) and then they have give us 2 years under article 50, unless we chose to change our laws in this country and revoke legislation so we can speed up the process.
That means they would have to take on the Euro.They didn't say they didn't want them, they said they would have to follow the same procedure as everyone else.
Indeed and a big deal was made of that at the time. Now they are talking about something different. I suspect the angle that will be played by the EU is that Scotland is already in the EU and have voted to stay therefore if they wish to do so they are already a member and can stay on the same terms. Something along those lines. The Scots would then get a referendum on independence but knowing they were in Europe and could keep the pound.That means they would have to take on the Euro.
yep, which sorts out one of the issues the SNP had before the first referendum, people weren't clear on what currency would be used if they voted yes.That means they would have to take on the Euro.
But it just proved how full of shit Cameron is, if he really wanted to hurt Boris and co, he would have invoked article 50 on Friday morning, then resigned leaving them to deal with the shit. The fact is, no one is willing to make a statement on our future as they, as yet, do not run this country. As it stands we are living in a country that has no leader.that's my point, we have to trigger article 50. Cameron said he would do it immediately in the event of a leave vote, he reneged on this. Boris, (or some other prominent leaver), should have anticipated this could happen, that they didn't is quite worrying.
If they can't 2nd guess a spurned David Cameron they're going to get ring run round them in Brussels.
Basically, Boris wanted his main opponent in the referendum to do the post referendum dirty work for him and now seems shocked that he won't.
that's my point, we have to trigger article 50. Cameron said he would do it immediately in the event of a leave vote, he reneged on this. Boris, (or some other prominent leaver), should have anticipated this could happen, that they didn't is quite worrying.
If they can't 2nd guess a spurned David Cameron they're going to get ring run round them in Brussels.
Basically, Boris wanted his main opponent in the referendum to do the post referendum dirty work for him and now seems shocked that he won't.
but again, they should have had at last a rudimentary idea of what to do.But it just proved how full of shit Cameron is, if he really wanted to hurt Boris and co, he would have invoked article 50 on Friday morning, then resigned leaving them to deal with the shit. The fact is, no one is willing to make a statement on our future as they, as yet, do not run this country. As it stands we are living in a country that has no leader.
This would just give whoever is in power the excuse. We weren't ready etc..But it just proved how full of shit Cameron is, if he really wanted to hurt Boris and co, he would have invoked article 50 on Friday morning, then resigned leaving them to deal with the shit. The fact is, no one is willing to make a statement on our future as they, as yet, do not run this country. As it stands we are living in a country that has no leader.
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The Huffington post, fucksake, load of shit stirring idiots, not making things any better.
There could be unstoppable demand for a re-run of the EU referendum if Remain wins by a narrow margin on 23 June, UKIP leader Nigel Farage has said.
The Huffington post, fucksake, load of shit stirring idiots, not making things any better.
Of course you will get morons around, but those same morons will be trying to fight someone or another anyway. This is why though that the politicians have to start making some clear statements on national TV to make it clear that pathetic racist attacks are just as cowardly and punishable by the full force of the law now, as they ever were ! We need leadership true but we don't need left wing activists trying their best to create bad feeling either.
When i watched this live this morning I was waiting for the BBC to cut the live feed, he sums up exactly why I voted to leave.
The irony of " let's put the Great back into Britain" I bet her maj is thrilled to bits.
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I wouldn't totally disagree with Andrew Marr's analysis but would point out that Coventry is a relatively prosperous, youthful, well-educated city but still voted by 55.6%-44.4% to leave.
I think whatever happens, not much will actually change. We'll still end up in the single market, with freedom of movement and be governed by a number of EU laws similar to Switzerland.
Biggest difference is we'll now have no influence.
That remains to be seen. I believe Britain is in a much stronger negotiating position than either Switzerland or Norway.
I very much doubt you had any influence before as was demonstrated when Cameron tried to renegotiate terms and failed miserably.
They won't make allowances for us that they wouldn't for other countries, particularly on freedom of movement.
We had influence in that we were one of three countries that could veto any law along with France & Germany.
...which was the most stupid reason to do it.When i watched this live this morning I was waiting for the BBC to cut the live feed, he sums up exactly why I voted to leave.
There shouldn't be another referendum.
That remains to be seen. I believe Britain is in a much stronger negotiating position than either Switzerland or Norway.
I very much doubt you had any influence before as was demonstrated when Cameron tried to renegotiate terms and failed miserably.
Again, that remains to be seen.
Do you have a link to support that statement because I certainly couldn't find any?
I think whatever happens, not much will actually change. We'll still end up in the single market, with freedom of movement and be governed by a number of EU laws similar to Switzerland. We'll basically be in the EU by a different name. Biggest difference is we'll now have no influence.
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