Sick Boy
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Forced Labour? The poor and unemployed are out making a -'quick-buck' by robbing?
Fucking hell.
If there are jobs available then the unemployed should be recruited/trained up specifically to fill them. Only specialised jobs should require seeking those from abroad...that reduces the need for tax to pay unemployment benefits, reduces crime given that folk are busy working instead of trying to make a quick-buck by robbing...etc
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Bet you have flagged Trump off for his border wall with Mexico though.
So many contradictions. If Farage mentioned anything about a border to prevent free-movement you would be after him. Merkel - you seem to support everything she says & does...even welcoming all those refugees from OUTSIDE the EU. Is that to stop them running away if the EU starts going tits-up?
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Bet you have flagged Trump off for his border wall with Mexico though.
So many contradictions. If Farage mentioned anything about a border to prevent free-movement you would be after him. Merkel - you seem to support everything she says & does...even welcoming all those refugees from OUTSIDE the EU. Is that to stop them running away if the EU starts going tits-up?
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For a start benefits from Asian markets have to be achieved through production in those countries. So any profits and gains made are irrelevant to the core aim manufacturers have of keeping plant production in Europe at full capacity.
Does this apply to markets in Australia and America as well?
Are you saying that post Brexit global Britain will not be about jobs for Brits, but about achieving benefits through production in other countries?
Good for hedge funds and shareholders, but not for the forgotten people at home?
We went over tor Fuertaventura for a 4 day mini break and ended up sitting next to a proper Brexiteer with a Union Jack passport cover. We actually had a pretty good chat on the plane and both came to the conclusion that whatever happens us ordinary people will probably get shafted.
No - forcing people to accept that if they want to have certain standard of living - they have to get off their arse & earn it!Oh oh dear. Forcing people to work... Arbeitsdienst...has been done before. Not everyone can be made to do jobs they don’t want to. Not everyone is prepared to leave their family and friends to work elsewhere. Immigrants are.
We live in a democracy and no one is going to tell the unemployed what to do. Sorry to disappoint you.
Not forced labour as such - just forced reality for some. Do nothing = get nothing. That is not unreasonable to those that pay to support a lifestyle unworthy of the attitude. There are some worthy to support- others that milk!Forced Labour? The poor and unemployed are out making a -'quick-buck' by robbing?
Fucking hell.
*No it wasn't me.
Where did you stay out of interest?
Went for an all inclusive a couple of years back in Corralejo. Weather was shit but hit the gym in the morning then drank for 15 hours straight all day.
Not forced labour as such - just forced reality for some. Do nothing = get nothing. That is not unreasonable to those that pay to support a lifestyle unworthy of the attitude. There are some worthy to support- others that milk!
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The border w
Trump is a semi literate populist who just says and does things. No thought for the consequences. FOR TRUMP READ MERKLE
He won’t build a wall. It is too expensive. Mexico won’t pay if he does. So, he will repair and reinforce where necessary and then claim to have built a wall.
I would be after Farage if he came out with some bird brained wall - could only happen in Ireland as we only have one land border. BUT YOU ARE HAPPY FOR HARD BORFWRS AROUND THE EU = HYPOCTIC
Merkel is at least intelligent. DEBATABLE
Welcoming people from a war zone as refugees is not a bad thing and is covered by the Geneva Convention and UN Charter. It is irrelevant if the refugees were non EU citizens. NO, BUT WELCOMING EVERYONE IS ANOTHER THING
Your last sentence is just nuts. Incomprehensible. ONLY TO THE UNCOMPREHENDING
Yeah that's definitely going to work, isn't it. :/
It works in 3rd world countries
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It is life - you do find the real world strange?What a strange person.
It is life - you do d the real world strange?
If Armageddon happened tonight - would you be so charitable? Any answer other than 'no' & I reckon you have either not thought it through or you are a liar!
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No - forcing people to accept that if they want to have certain standard of living - they have to get off their arse & earn it!
There is definitely a small proportion that need everyone else to rally around & support them. There is also a proportion who think they can do nothing but still maintain a pretty good standard of living without doing much to justify it!
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You are basically proposing forced labour for people to claim benefits and holding up 3rd world countries as examples for Britain to follow; you also labelled the poor as out robbing or something else ridiculous.
Then you have the genius idea of witholding benefits from those who refuse to partake or who are unable to take part in your labour camps.
Then start blabbering on about Armageddon.
As I said, very strange.
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What do you want? Scrap benefits? Work or starve? Problem is that crime would increase. How do you choose who is genuine and who isn’t? We have low unemployment now, but there will be times of high unemployment which will mean more „robbing poor“, through not their own fault.
Brexit has poisoned debate in this country. Now we are accusing the poor of „robbing“ and not getting off their arse.
It’s gone from EU bureaucrats to Eastern Europeans, Muslims, Black, and Asian people, „libtards“, „snowflakes“,“lefties“ and now to our own poor and unemployed. Not to forget Brexiteers attacking Eurovision because Europeans don’t vote for us as they loathe us - apparently.
All conveniently distracting from hedge fund owners and managers and tax dodging dodgy millionaires and politicians.
It is called fascism. Has been done in Nazi Germany and the slogan „Arbeit macht frei“ is infamous. „Work makes you free“.
You can thank the vanguards of neo fascism for these debates in social media. People like Farage, Bannon and Trump.
You seem to struggle to understand things. Or simply put your own spin on stuff.
Didn't actually say any of that.
You seem to be suggesting the same as the right wing politicians & capitalists. As in it is good to have unemployed people (5% is ideal I think I read) sitting about feeling worthless...& get desperate & poor people from other countries to come & take low paid jobs...which the rest of us subsidise in taxes that are used to top up their earnings in benefits!
Personally I think it better to offer people that are not working a good value proposition to give them a sense of worth. Otherwise we have SOME people that prefer to not work, people that turn to petty crime etc- a bit like the society we currently do have.
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No it is called the real world. Think about your own actions Mart. You have upped sticks & baked out of Britain...& are applying for a dual passport. You aren't doing that for the poor or unemployed in Britain now are you?
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So Mandelson was brought up on a council estate in Manchester and became the richest man in the UK? Oh no it is the person you want to compare to him.Another wealthy person who does know what he is talking about, Peter Mandelson says:
So Mandelson was brought up on a council estate in Manchester and became the richest man in the UK? Oh no it is the person you want to compare to him.
Peter Mandelson gets £400,000 loan from own company to ease tax burden
Comment: Where does Peter Mandelson's money come from?
Or even this one?
BBC News | UK Politics | Mandelson in cash loan quiz
How many times has he been made to resign?
Northern Ireland Secretary Peter Mandelson resigns from British government a second time
No. That’s not my job to look after the poor in the UK. I support my family. I gave up my job during an UK economic crisis. You could say I helped 1 person get a job in the UK and created one for myself in Germany, via France actually.
I left when the car industry collapsed in Cov. As did many others.
No, but you are using rich people as examples for your cause, so I used another one. Mandelson does actually know what he is talking about as regards the EU ( European Trade Commissioner), rather than someone involved in fracking sounding off because he doesn’t like pesky environmental regulations.
Mandelson is a greedy, conniving snout in the trough politician who is reviled in the uk.
He’s a perfect fit for Brussels. Using Peter mandelson as a witness is like having Fred West as an advocate of your patio building company.
You are as much a gift on here as Italia is on the wasps threads
And I applaud you for not sitting about feeling sorry for yourself. Similar thing happened to me with redundancy.
The trouble is that those who want to work want to be paid for it...too many 'unskilled' jobs are undervalued
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Is he right on this though?
No he’s a bitter angry man as the press exposed his lies and ruined his political career
Seems to be coping though. More than just about managing.
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