Every day though?To be fair Farage is in the news quite often and is today singing the praises of UKIP getting involved in Bannon's project and Tommy Robinson potentially getting g a leading role in a UK wing of it.
What do you want explaining?
Why I think the way that the EU is run is corrupt?
If you can read it is self explanatory. How can you deny it? Even the most pro EU can do whatever they want to do supporters can't defend them on this.
How so? Mart is denying very obvious things that even the EU pro press and Parliament are critical of.
I’ve never wanted to be in the EU and have felt that way since the Maastricht treaty so how have I been brainwashed?
Every day though?
No he isn't. He isn't newsworthy these days. But some will try to disagree.
UKIP are finished unless we end up staying in the EU. Then I dread to think what will happen. They could come back even stronger than before. What opposition would they have?
Explain yourself.It's strange how brainwashing is applied to the side you're opposed to. The likes of yourself, Astute and others could be described in much the same way.
Explain yourself.
Me brainwashed? I back up what I say with evidence. Others on here play at follow the leader and backslap each other. They wait 24 hours and then try to deny the evidence that has been put in front of them.
Brainwashed comes to people who only look at one side and rubbish the other side whatever the evidence. But you always agree with them so will defend them.
Each week?Take a look at my post from yesterday and the opportunity for a far right party to fill a void and become the 3rd party.
Farage is very much in the news each week.
Is he not entitled to his own opinion and has to go along with the press on everything? It doesn't make someone brainwashed.
We then have certain posters posting opinion pieces as facts and then claiming their opinions are 'the truth'. The best yet was trying to claim that the Telegraph is a remain paper.
So every news outlet said the same. People of the EU said the sameI don't always agree with them on everything, it's not how politics works.
You use opinion pieces as evidence and claim your opinion on it to be the truth.
What's your opinion on Bannon trying to interfere with European politics and push a far-right agenda?Each week?
Mart said every day. I said not every day. And most of the time it is a comment that has been made at some stage.
As I said he isn't newsworthy. There is no use of him.
Lots of people try to interfere. If you are not involved you should keep out of it. That includes everyone from every country that is not naturally involved.What's your opinion on Bannon trying to interfere with European politics and push a far-right agenda?
Do you think the EU is to blame for the rise of the alt right in America?
Lol so just like FIFA corruption wasn’t exposed for decades after the event and before that was just a view.
Mugawbwe won elections in the same way. It was only a view they were undemocratic.
So even though there was outrage through the parliament to his appointment you salute the flag.
Even though very pro European publications have condemned the appointment you salute the appointment of someone who is described as Eus Rasputin you think it’s ok.
Fucking hell
Mart is like a member of Isis. He is brainwashed. It’s ironic that someone who constantly talks about media manipulation is the most media manipulated person on here.
Actually you are factually wrong. I was not subjected to the UK media onslaught from leave during the referendum campaign. Probably because FB and others are not interested in me as a German account. I am doing catchup now that it has happened. It is more the opposite of being brainwashed by either side. I have to keep fact check ing on here, because there are things that I have never heard before and they tend to be bullshit. Some on here keep spewing Faragisms as if they are facts because they have heard them so often, they must be.
Lots of people try to interfere. If you are not involved you should keep out of it. That includes everyone from every country that is not naturally involved.
And what is wrong with that?
Jimmy hill is the cause of this.I don't believe this! 508 pages in and we still haven't bought Conor Chaplin.
Of course Mart. We all believe you.
You know full well I am in Germany. Anyone here will explain what targeting is. I am not on their radar.
Of course not Mart. Media targeting only occurred in the uk exclusively to Brexit audiences.
Of course not Mart. Media targeting only occurred in the uk exclusively to Brexit audiences.
Where am I factually wrong?Actually you are factually wrong. I was not subjected to the UK media onslaught from leave during the referendum campaign. Probably because FB and others are not interested in me as a German account. I am doing catchup now that it has happened. It is more the opposite of being brainwashed by either side. I have to keep fact check ing on here, because there are things that I have never heard before and they tend to be bullshit. Some on here keep spewing Faragisms as if they are facts because they have heard them so often, they must be.
Of course you are trying to put it in perspective. It is something that can't be defended. The only place I have seen anyone try to defend It is on SBT :shifty:What are you on about now? It is a view. I would have thought there was evidence of bribery, and it would have been brought out.
I have not saluted the guy or approved of the scandal. Just asking questions and trying to put it in perspective.
So you don't believe that I have been brainwashed like has been alleged?The FB targeting would only have been set to show in the UK, and there should have been separate campaigns for these audiences but it just keeps getting murkier and murkier.
Brexit youth group's Facebook ads reached mostly older audience
Still, it's a good distraction away from the more important news to claim that a poster on a football forum is brainwashed.
So where do you stand with this?I expect a barrage of bullshit as Bannon and his backers step up their campaign for far right representation in the EU parliament.
Exactly...look beyond Farage & you find a string of EU policies that simply facilitated Farage's success. Just like in the current environment - a chance to strengthen bonds, missed in search of individual's ego fulfilment...making their own mark on EU historyExplain. No time for riddles. I blame Farage not for winning, but for the damage done.
So where do you stand with this?
The far right got so many votes in Germany that they are the leading opposition in your country. Is this factually correct?
So should they have the third largest amount of seats in Germany?
Should there be similar representation of how people voted in their countries and who stands for them in the EU?
My gut feeling is no. But I do believe in freedom of speech. As long as the freedom to say what you want does not include insulting others. And some right wingers are not as bad as others. Should they all get silenced because of the worse of them?
Exactly...look beyond Farage & you find a string of EU policies that simply facilitated Farage's success. Just like in the current environment - a chance to strengthen bonds, missed in search of individual's ego fulfilment...making their own mark on EU history
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Had you not said anythong about it how many of us would have known. Keep giving them the spotlight & ignore the cracks developing in the EU. How long before it is too late to salvage it?To be fair Farage is in the news quite often and is today singing the praises of UKIP getting involved in Bannon's project and Tommy Robinson potentially getting g a leading role in a UK wing of it.
Of course you are trying to put it in perspective. It is something that can't be defended. The only place I have seen anyone try to defend It is on SBT :shifty:
And your idea was saying Farage is in the media every day. He isn't. But it puts nothing in perspective.
Even though much of the way the EU is corrupt I still think we would be better off in it. Especially in the short term. Medium term is debatable.
But it doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye to what is wrong with the EU.
Had you not said anythong about it how many of us would have known. Keep giving them the spotlight & ignore the cracks developing in the EU. How long before it is too late to salvage it?
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So you don't believe that I have been brainwashed like has been alleged?
So we are back onto campaigns? Can we mention how bad both sides were so I don't have to continue to correct things. I have more important things to think about like corruptness in the EU
Had you not said anythong about it how many of us would have known. Keep giving them the spotlight & ignore the cracks developing in the EU. How long before it is too late to salvage it?
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Actually you are factually wrong. I was not subjected to the UK media onslaught from leave during the referendum campaign. Probably because FB and others are not interested in me as a German account. I am doing catchup now that it has happened. It is more the opposite of being brainwashed by either side. I have to keep fact check ing on here, because there are things that I have never heard before and they tend to be bullshit. Some on here keep spewing Faragisms as if they are facts because they have heard them so often, they must be.
More young people are on Facebook, yet more young people voted remain.
On my Facebook all there was were 60-80% of people posting statuses pushing for us to stay in the EU and calling out anyone that wanted to vote leave as racists, idiots and other attractive buzzwords. The Russian bots thing is nonsense really as the most influence I had as a 26 year old on Facebook was other people I knew or went to school with trying to make it as uncomfortable as possible to even think about voting to leave.
It also made me laugh how so many of those people posting statuses put an embarrassing statement at the end saying 'it's ok to vote whichever way you want', when that is clearly what they didn't mean. My hunch has since been proved correct now you see so many of them gagging for a second referendum.
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