Here we go again.You can’t negotiate until the other side say what they want. After 2 years May turned up with a plan which everyone knew and had said was unworkable. So, we still haven’t got any further with the main points.
Congratulations - hope it all goes well for youJust got confirmation of moving over to Verona just after Christmas, can't wait
So everyone out of the 27 have said they don't want to negotiate?
Here we go again.
So how do we solve the Ireland problem?
If there is a free trade agreement the major hurdles are sorted. But they won't look into a trade agreement until the problems are sorted.
All OK so far?
So how can we sort out the Ireland problem when we don't know what sort of trade agreement there will be?
Then you say it isn't those running the EU that are causing any problems.
So you have changed what you said about him now. OK.
So how about the link I provided for you that showed Brexit is bad for hedge funds?
And what is a workable proposal other than staying in the SM and keeping our borders open to those with an EU passport?No. They asked for workable proposals to negotiate on. They said Chequers was a starting point. May said it was all that was on the table. End of story.
You are just coming out with EU propaganda.The Irish problem was solved by the GFA. Brexit puts that at risk. Say how the UK will guarantee regulatory alignment and we can move on. Without knowing how the border will operate you cannot have any deal, including WTO.
You are just trying to blame others for the Brexit dilemma of controlling our borders and having an open border for Ireland. It’s up to people like you to find a solution to your own problem.
Try reading it again.The link was about licensing to be able to trade. Not about financial gains from Brexit. Rees Mogg has moved investment funds to Dublin. He has a foot in both camps.
You are just coming out with EU propaganda.
How many problems would be resolved with a free trade agreement?
Try reading it again.
And what is a workable proposal other than staying in the SM and keeping our borders open to those with an EU passport?
A dubious organisation funded by so-called dark money.
Just take a look at the motley crew announcing their alternative free trade deal.... enjoy..
Congratulations - hope it all goes well for you
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Your mates
Clegg
Major
Blair
Lord Adonis
Campbell
Lally
Umana
now THAT'S a motley crew.
Any involved in financial scandals? Russian money? Sex affairs? Not all perfect by any means, but rather them than the opposing rogues.
Yes they have been involved in scandals
I’m surprised you knew that. Or were you just playing dumb the other day when when you asked me to “educate” you on why our political institutions and politicians are just as bad any from within the EU? Still it’s not like one of them produced a dressed up dossier that took us to what can only be described as an illegal war while an unelected man described as the most influential person in British politics at the time was running around newspapers and news stations selling it to the public. Things like that only happens in the EU. Apparently.
Is that the same man who loves Europe - your namesake Tony?
My mate Mogg?No I am not. The UK voted for Brexit. Not the EU. Now your mate Mogg has a „new“ FTA which he wants and which was drawn up by the IEA. A dubious organisation funded by so-called dark money.
Dark money lurks at the heart of our political crisis | George Monbiot
This is his free trade wet dream. Ditch workers‘ protections and pesky regulations. This is the Brexit, which the very people who have most to lose, were sweet talked into voting for. The slow hypnotic voice from the posh toff, backed up by blustering Billy Bunter BoJo and beer and fags, posh boy in disguise, Farage, financed by Banks‘dark money, has led you up the garden path and you now spout their crap as if it is yours and is fact. It isn’t. Brexit is turbo capitalism.
I am all for people making money, but there has to be safeguards for the staff and the environment. There are more safeguards for people‘s rights built into the EU, despite Selmayr’s rushed promotion. I certainly wouldn’t recommend believing in any IEA Plan presented by a wealthy hedge fund owner.
But, you obviously would, especially if Mogg ( who has his own nanny ) brings up Mary Poppins. So very nice. So very British. He is a great actor and has created a nice image for someone who’s really out to con working people.
Reform?Canada +? You tell me. You are for Brexit. Rees Mogg has a plan. No way will it be accepted and he will get his hard Brexit. This will cause chaos, bring May down, and in storms the „emerging markets“ team. After the disaster, ( guesswork on my part - and virtually everyone else‘s ), Britain will one day recover, and in 50 years it will be booming again ( according to Rees Mogg ).
The alternative would be remain and reform. Use the existing powers to eject people who cannot find a job within 3 months. Pump money into UK areas left behind, boost the economy and take an active roll in improving the EU. Leave Rees Mogg to concentrate on emerging markets and Aron Banks to carry on bunging politicians in Africa to get mining licenses instead of leading British people up the garden path. Farage has an alternative career in speaking to right wing pensioners in the USA through Fox News.
Says the person who voted UKIPHealth groups dismayed by news 'big tobacco' funded rightwing thinktanks
Basically it’s from the same think tank that thinks like this
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Should we add Juncker if you want a financial scandal?Any involved in financial scandals? Russian money? Sex affairs? Not all perfect by any means, but rather them than the opposing rogues.
Isn't it strange that those involved in the worse scandals love the EU.........I’m surprised you knew that. Or were you just playing dumb the other day when when you asked me to “educate” you on why our political institutions and politicians are just as bad any from within the EU? Still it’s not like one of them produced a dressed up dossier that took us to what can only be described as an illegal war while an unelected man described as the most influential person in British politics at the time was running around newspapers and news stations selling it to the public. Things like that only happens in the EU. Apparently.
Oh yes all done in secret where we have votes. Whilst the EU dies it in public and doesn't bother having votes.......something wrong there.Scandal after scandal, not to mention previous story governments before Blair. But, let’s look at the appointment of a top civil servant in the EU. We cannot look at the appointments in the UK because they are all done in secret and have, allegedly, a lot to do with old school ties.
There is generally a workable solution if both sides desire one.There is no workable solution to the Irish border. The DUP are single handedly seeing to that. The Tories may be the head of the country but on this issue the DUP are the neck and the neck turns the head. That’s why chequers isn’t workable.
My mate Mogg?
Shows how childish you are.
Or have you got some kind of warped imagination?
Oh yes all done in secret where we have votes. Whilst the EU dies it in public and doesn't bother having votes.......something wrong there.
Isn't it strange that those involved in the worse scandals love the EU.........
Should we add Juncker if you want a financial scandal?
Says the person who voted UKIP
Reform?
It is the EU that needs to reform. Getting rid of those who don't keep to the rules and regulations would be a great start.
Oh yes all done in secret where we have votes. Whilst the EU dies it in public and doesn't bother having votes.......something wrong there.
There is generally a workable solution if both sides desire one.
Bruno Le Maire appears not to want anything but what is best for EU citizens..."Any decision that gives European citizens the impression that you can leave the European Union and keep all the advantages would be suicidal,"...just what is best for the EU machine, virtually holding the citizens in shackles
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