That is your view.No. We should stay in the EU because leaving will not bring us more benefits than we have by remaining.
How about explaining instead of making comments like this?Are you on the wind up again?
Those under 18 are not counted anymore. They either have to have a job or continue in education. And many others don't count that would love to work. It is what is known as massaging the figures.
Just like if either the wife or I wasn't working. Neither would be counted as unemployed as the other earns enough for us not to be counted as we would still earn too much to be on benefits.
That is your view.
Leaving means at the start some things will be worse. There us no doubt here. But long term it will be better.
I was the same as you to start with. But now through Brexit I have found out what the EU is like. Short term pain for long term gain. And not to be run by a crooked institution.
How about explaining instead of making comments like this?
Of course you can't as you know I am right.
That is your view.
Leaving means at the start some things will be worse. There us no doubt here. But long term it will be better.
I was the same as you to start with. But now through Brexit I have found out what the EU is like. Short term pain for long term gain. And not to be run by a crooked institution.
That is your view.
Leaving means at the start some things will be worse. There us no doubt here. But long term it will be better.
I was the same as you to start with. But now through Brexit I have found out what the EU is like. Short term pain for long term gain. And not to be run by a crooked institution.
How will it be better in the long-term? What will be better? What is this based on?
If you didn't search the net for the most anti Brexit articles all the time or twist anything that was anti EU it would be worth reading the countless links.
Not bad from someone who says those who voted leave are clueless when you voted UKIP.
Would you like to explain?
Are you stating as a fact that the EU couldn't do a deal that would benefit both sides if they wanted to?
Of course you are not.
This has nothing to do with any plan or any Tory. And you know it.
We also have some area of high unemployment where people struggle to get work. I would love him to tell them that we have full employment.
Ah. So I am supposed to only say about pro EU stuff like yourself.
Are you on the wind up again?
That is your view.
Leaving means at the start some things will be worse. There us no doubt here. But long term it will be better.
I was the same as you to start with. But now through Brexit I have found out what the EU is like. Short term pain for long term gain. And not to be run by a crooked institution.
That is your view.
Leaving means at the start some things will be worse. There us no doubt here. But long term it will be better.
I was the same as you to start with. But now through Brexit I have found out what the EU is like. Short term pain for long term gain. And not to be run by a crooked institution.
If we can firm up our borders and control immigration better, then that will be a big improvement for a start. We need skilled, non criminal, checked workers who can add to the quality of life here not diminish it. There may be a positive impact on wages for people already in the UK if we can stop the flood of unskilled minimum wage types coming from Eastern Europe.
Everyone just talks about economic impact but 250,000 extra people a year is putting ridiculous strain on transport, hospitals, welfare and care services and schools etc. Not to mention housing stocks, rental costs, water supply, criminal activity/policing, potential terrorism surveillance, pollution and the environmental impact.
It doesn't help of course that any economic benefit from these extra bodies seems to be swallowed up into the same channels of the super rich and public funding for everything is continually cut.
If we can firm up our borders and control immigration better, then that will be a big improvement for a start. We need skilled, non criminal, checked workers who can add to the quality of life here not diminish it. There may be a positive impact on wages for people already in the UK if we can stop the flood of unskilled minimum wage types coming from Eastern Europe.
Everyone just talks about economic impact but 250,000 extra people a year is putting ridiculous strain on transport, hospitals, welfare and care services and schools etc. Not to mention housing stocks, rental costs, water supply, criminal activity/policing, potential terrorism surveillance, pollution and the environmental impact.
It doesn't help of course that any economic benefit from these extra bodies seems to be swallowed up into the same channels of the super rich and public funding for everything is continually cut.
1.4M, ONS has stats on loads of stuff.
UK labour market - Office for National Statistics
German unemployment runs about 3,.4%, UK currently 4.0%
The difference is those at the top of the EU don't get voted in by us. Those like Selmayr don't even get voted in when the position should have someone voted in. We have the right to vote the Tories out.Crooked organisation? Are you following the Conservative conference? The lies, the calls to emotions to cover the failures? And you are worried about the EU?
Oh what a shock. Twisted words and question not answered.As the EU has said, it won't allow the UK to cherry pick the bits it likes and doesn't like about the Single Market.
I know this will come as a shock to you as you claimed that as the UK buys German cars, Italian wine, French cheese etc and the EU needs us more then we need them, that these industries would put pressure on and lead to the EU caving in.
Surprise surprise though it hasn't happened and was never going to.
So RM is a twat and anyone is an idiot for listening to him......unless he says something you like.The long term gain is just what you have been told. Rees Mogg says in 50 years the UK will be booming.
I won’t be here so I won’t be able to compare notes. A bit like religion telling you things will be better in heaven when you die.
I prefer sticking to what I know, one of the top G7 economies, SM, CU and trade deals throughout the world through the EU.... as opposed to short term pain whatever happens and, maybe, or maybe not, prosperity at some future indeterminate time.
Taking back control and not letting unvoted people decide our destiny when they don't care what happens here.How will it be better in the long-term? What will be better? What is this based on?
And you will ignore everything bad about the EU and say we must stay in whatever the consequences.He will dodge the question and come out with Juncker, Selmayr or fish....
More lies.No. You’re supposed to say about pro Brexit stuff. You’ve the one who thinks it’s a good idea, why don’t you at least try to educate those of us who don’t?
Oh what a shock. Twisted words and question not answered.
Could the EU negotiate if they wanted to?
Could the EU come out with a trade deal if they wanted to?
Are they taking this stance to try and force us to stay in?
More lies.
So I have never said there is good and bad about leaving? And I have never said it would be better for my plans when I retire if we stay in?
Of course not. You only read the parts you don't like and the few of you join in on an attack.
The one who lives in Germany. The one who is moving to Italy and the one who voted UKIP.
I can understand why Mart and SB are desperate for us to stay in the EU. But you who voted UKIP?
More lies.
So I have never said there is good and bad about leaving? And I have never said it would be better for my plans when I retire if we stay in?
Of course not. You only read the parts you don't like and the few of you join in on an attack.
The one who lives in Germany. The one who is moving to Italy and the one who voted UKIP.
I can understand why Mart and SB are desperate for us to stay in the EU. But you who voted UKIP?
Taking back control and not letting unvoted people decide our destiny when they don't care what happens here.
Don't worry. You will be in Italy soon. Everything will be good as the EU is brilliant.
The difference is those at the top of the EU don't get voted in by us. Those like Selmayr don't even get voted in when the position should have someone voted in. We have the right to vote the Tories out.
But this doesn't go with your pro EU propaganda.
More lies.
So I have never said there is good and bad about leaving? And I have never said it would be better for my plans when I retire if we stay in?
Of course not. You only read the parts you don't like and the few of you join in on an attack.
The one who lives in Germany. The one who is moving to Italy and the one who voted UKIP.
I can understand why Mart and SB are desperate for us to stay in the EU. But you who voted UKIP?
Yet you don't want the UK to act in their best interests?No they're not they're acting in its best interest, as it's entitled to do.
Taking back control.I'm not desperate but I genuinely believe it will be bad in the long term. You've said it will be better in the long run but have failed to tell us how
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