Empty slogans?Haha just parroting empty slogans, as usual.
Yeah OK.You have no valid positive leave news then as suspected. Thank you for the confirmation.
Yet you don't want the UK to act in their best interests?
Cameron wanted a meeting to see what could be done to help with the problems we were having. Juncker said no and let the UK know right before the Brexit vote.
Yeah top thinking.
They could still negotiate and say what they want and what they would allow. But we don't even get that.
Yet since then rules gave been changed. Like borders closed to people who have landed in the EU not being able to leave where they land. This way they can't reach Germany.Juncker said they couldn't change the rules of 28 countries for one country. That is still the position.
Taking back control.
How are we doing that? We are up shit creek and dependant on other countries for any deals we may make.
Deciding how many people can live in the UK while we try to catch up with the previous government ineptitudes.
How has that worked with non eu migration up until now?
Do checks on who comes here instead of an EU passport becoming a right to be here.
We are in Europol and have mutual arrangements for deporting criminals and acces to EU data banks on criminals.
Being able to make our own trade deals.
With whom and on better terms than the EU has? How much tangible evidence of trade deals in progress? USA and Australia want to do deals with the EU first.
Not being forced into rules and regulations that Germany constantly ignore but we are not allowed to.
Examples? Germany is having to correct things at the moment - such as the diesel emmissions.
That is for starters.
That's all. Now back to Selmayr.
Yes there are many good things to stay in the EU for. But these seem to be the only ones that count and the good on leaving is never right to some.
Yeah OK.
All you have good about staying in the EU is the way they fail to negotiate.
Of course there won't be valid reasons. Because you don't want there to be any.I didn’t need further confirmation that you have no valid positive leave news. I got it the first time. I thought I’d been quite clear on that.
Goodbye.All this 'the EU are threatening us' and 'they're refusing to negotiate' and 'they're punishing us' is complete bollocks.
We 'voluntarily' triggered an agreement (article 50) that we helped write and agreed to.
Just because some people were hoodwinked by the 'we'll get a great deal' nonsense does not mean that the EU are acting maliciously.
I'm almost at the point now where I say fuck it, I'll apply for citizenship in the country I'm in now and let the whole UK sink into a mess of 52% of its own making. Let the one thing we should all be proud of (NHS) be decimated by big pharma. Let austerity be ramped up even further. Let the UK be turned into a tax haven. Let Darren fucking Grimes and those cunts from Belize and all those public school educated multi millionaires have their Victorian way.
But I just know that when the shit hits the fan it definitely won't be the vote-leavers fault. The narrative is being written already: the nasty EU, the remoaners, Germany.
Of course there won't be valid reasons. Because you don't want there to be any.
Not bad from someone who voted UKIP.
Goodbye.
So there is you not in the UK. Mart in Germany. SB moving to Italy and Tony who voted UKIP.
I get the 3 of you and why you are so biased. But not Tony who voted UKIP. And UKIP as we all know were about one thing. Leaving the EU.
Goodbye.
So there is you not in the UK. Mart in Germany. SB moving to Italy and Tony who voted UKIP.
I get the 3 of you and why you are so biased. But not Tony who voted UKIP. And UKIP as we all know were about one thing. Leaving the EU.
Capricious.I’ve explained my reasons a gazillion times to you for voting Brexit in a European election on one occasion and one occasion only. I’m not going to do it again. Keep using it as a childish distraction from answering the tough questions all you like. It just confirms how clueless you are.
You also know my reasoning for not leaving the EU against Brexit although you’re now pretending you don’t. We’re 500+ pages into the subject and I’ve been (along with yourself) one of the main contributors. If you’re really saying that you don’t know my reasoning by now then you really are beyond help. Your attention to detail must be shocking and probably explains your constant repeating of empty rhetoric instead of any detail on how said empty rhetoric is going to be achieved.
Fight my corner?You’re still not telling me. You want there to be, fight your corner. And then further confirmation that you can’t with another moronic comment. No ones buying your attempted distraction. Sell us brexit on tangible pros not empty rhetoric and childish distraction.
You had no reason to vote UKIP other than leave the EU.I’ve explained my reasons a gazillion times to you for voting Brexit in a European election on one occasion and one occasion only. I’m not going to do it again. Keep using it as a childish distraction from answering the tough questions all you like. It just confirms how clueless you are.
You also know my reasoning for not leaving the EU against Brexit although you’re now pretending you don’t. We’re 500+ pages into the subject and I’ve been (along with yourself) one of the main contributors. If you’re really saying that you don’t know my reasoning by now then you really are beyond help. Your attention to detail must be shocking and probably explains your constant repeating of empty rhetoric instead of any detail on how said empty rhetoric is going to be achieved.
A response that has no reply I see.Great response.
A response that has no reply I see.
You had no reason to vote UKIP other than leave the EU.
Just like if you voted BNP then said you are not racist.
Goodbye.
So there is you not in the UK. Mart in Germany. SB moving to Italy and Tony who voted UKIP.
I get the 3 of you and why you are so biased. But not Tony who voted UKIP. And UKIP as we all know were about one thing. Leaving the EU.
Fight my corner?
With you three?
I don't have a corner to fight. Those who don't live in the UK or are planning to leave come out with lies and twisting of words. How can you try and have a debate with people like this.
Yet since then rules gave been changed. Like borders closed to people who have landed in the EU not being able to leave where they land. This way they can't reach Germany.
Clint just google & look for it. There are research articles (which have to conform to internationally ethical standards), by said Professors/Consultant led teams, & contain all the statistics you needto be honest when I was thinking of expert I was thinking more of a consultant than a general website but I suppose that's open to debate.
I'd would still rather listen to an expert than to Michael Gove, or the ridiculous 'Dr' Liam fox or any of their other cronies.
Nothing to do with freedom of movement.
As you & some others seem to like this approach...I'm not desperate but I genuinely believe it will be bad in the long term. You've said it will be better in the long run but have failed to tell us how
Thing is that 52% have over time become disillusioned with the EU machinations & predicted direction - THAT is the fault of the EU arguably!Great response.
I am staying (or will I fuck off to Ireland?) - I don't consider myself to be bias - just want to know how leaving the EU will make the UK better off. Still waiting for a plan.Goodbye.
So there is you not in the UK. Mart in Germany. SB moving to Italy and Tony who voted UKIP.
I get the 3 of you and why you are so biased. But not Tony who voted UKIP. And UKIP as we all know were about one thing. Leaving the EU.
Clint just google & look for it. There are research articles (which have to conform to internationally ethical standards), by said Professors/Consultant led teams, & contain all the statistics you need
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Nothing to do with rules changing?Nothing to do with freedom of movement.
And there is the problem. Nobody has a clue until we see what sort of deal/agreement is made. Nobody knows if it will be good or bad.I am staying (or will I fuck off to Ireland?) - I don't consider myself to be bias - just want to know how leaving the EU will make the UK better off. Still waiting for a plan.
And there is the problem. Nobody has a clue until we see what sort of deal/agreement is made. Nobody knows if it will be good or bad.
If there was a plan by the leave campaign in place that demonstrated that the UK would have sustained and stable economic growth, then I would have voted for it. There wasn't and still isn't - why take the risk of leaping into the unknown? It makes no sense.And there is the problem. Nobody has a clue until we see what sort of deal/agreement is made. Nobody knows if it will be good or bad.
If there was a plan by the leave campaign in place that demonstrated that the UK would have sustained and stable economic growth, then I would have voted for it. There wasn't and still isn't - why take the risk of leaping into the unknown? It makes no sense.
As you & some others seem to like this approach...
Stop complaining about Brexit – the economic benefits will be huge | John Longworth
How the UK can benefit from a free trade future after Brexit – even outside the single market
Pros and cons of leaving the EU
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Wrong. There are consultants doing so...to prevent stroke in at risk pts. If the cause of stroke a is a clot...it is warfarin or similar anticoagulant that would be prescribed. The point is...experts given the same information reach different convlusions in many situations. Media agenda chooses which are given airtime where. I reckon that the coverage is largely scaremongering & speculation.I guarantee you no consultant would prescribe you aspirin if you had a stroke until they'd found out the cause. If the cause was a clot they might well do then.
Hopefully you'll never be in a position to find out.
But you're proving the point that you're in Goves has enough of experts camp.
The thing is, when this all started there were people making the case for both side. Now leave just appears to be rhetoric and inaccuracies.
Again, Im happy for my thoughts on what will happen at our borders, What will happen if we go under the WTO in the event of a no deal to be taken apart with reasoned argument backed up with facts but no one can give me any glimmer of hope in this cluster fuck.
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