Grendel
Well-Known Member
It’s a lot of Euro drivel but based on a premise we’d change the arrangement - if not we’d remain in it
Which means that we can remain in the EEA which is my point
It’s a lot of Euro drivel but based on a premise we’d change the arrangement - if not we’d remain in it
Is that right? Try looking at yourself.Because you’re a boring moron if you want the truth. Can’t be arsed to deal with your twisting of what people say and failing to understand the basics of what people are telling you.
Yeah nobody will want to trade with us once we leave the EU. And it isn't scaremongering. We hear you Tony. We always do.We can. But we’ll have to remain in the single market and the customs union. Which apparently we aren’t doing either because apparently that’s not what the people voted for. So that eliminates EEA membership by default.
The horsemeat scam was a crime. Against EU law ( and any country‘s law ). The EU‘s police agency caught the crooks via EU countries cooperation. Well done EU!!! Good reason for remaining. Is that your point?
„A Spanish-led police operation has cracked a racket in horsemeat unfit for human consumption, the EU's police agency Europol says.“
The UK was told at the very beginning that the EU was a rule based organisation and that there was no way that they would be changing the rules of the 27 to accomodate the1.
Horse meat scams still happen in the EU. But our standards will drop when we leave?Strange, I can't recall horsemeat ever being passed off as beef here before the UK joined the Common Market? Perhaps that was because the price of meat had not yet been hugely inflated in order to subsidise French and German farmers?
Horse meat scams still happen in the EU. But our standards will drop when we leave?
Europol says 66 people have been arrested over the horsemeat scandal
Yeah nobody will want to trade with us once we leave the EU. And it isn't scaremongering. We hear you Tony. We always do.
Try looking up something that isn't pro EU and anti Brexit. Try reading something that isn't scaremongering. You might find out something truthful for once.
But do we have one with them now?It's already been said that to secure a trade deal with the USA that standards will have to be dropped.
What is wrong Tony? Can't you defend the EU here?WTF are you waffling on about. I answered a question that Grendull asked. You’re twisting again. If you don’t understand the question stay out of it.
But do we have one with them now?
It is used against us leaving the EU. But there are problems within the EU food chain presently. This gets ignored.
So why does the EU want a trade deal with the USA?
What is wrong Tony? Can't you defend the EU here?
I am not going to have a go at anyone that doesn't have a deal that means a lowering of standards. Just like I didn't have a go at the EU when it was after a trade deal with the USA.In that case there's likely problems with all food supply chains. It was illegal activity that was discovered by Europol.
Crime is committed everywhere, even in the UK.
The EU is going to have way more clout that the UK when negotiating with the USA, which is why the USA has said that the UK will need to align itself with the USA.
So you are allowed to mention chlorinated chicken for what reason?Defend them from what? The question was about the brexit process, there’s nothing to defend anyone for. It was about the technicalities of article 50. You’re twisting again.
So you are allowed to mention chlorinated chicken for what reason?
So you can mention the food chain when you want but I can't?Twisting again. Where have I mentioned chlorinated chicken in reply to Grendulls question?
So you are allowed to mention chlorinated chicken for what reason?
So you can mention the food chain when you want but I can't?
So it is a free country for you but not for me?Oh, by the way. If I had mentioned chlorinated chicken I’m allowed to because its a free country. Moron.
So you never said why I brought up links on the EU food chain?You can do what you like. You’re twisting again. I haven’t said you can’t talk about a particular subject. It’s a bit early to be on the pop isn’t it.
So it is a free country for you but not for me?
Then you have the nerve to call me a moron
That's actually a good point and rules out any prospect of so-called 'reform' of the EU from its present form.
And by the way there were only SIX other members when Britain applied to join.
That march today..... Pathetic , exaggerated and publicised as much as possible by the liberal press. Sickening politics going on again.......those seeking power would back anything and promise everything that might have short term voting popularity. Brexit doesn't mean leaving Europe, it doesn't mean not embracing the fabulous diverse culture and not appreciating the exquisite architecture and infrastructure across Europe and its natural wonders and it doesn't mean alienating people across that zone. It means retreating from a bunch of middle men, a bunch of needless bureaucrats, who create wealth for themselves with intricate laws and mandates. These people take a great chunk of UK cash for their own ends and then spread the rest around the EU according to where they think they might get the best return for French and German industrialists.
Yeah nobody will want to trade with us once we leave the EU. And it isn't scaremongering. We hear you Tony. We always do.
Try looking up something that isn't pro EU and anti Brexit. Try reading something that isn't scaremongering. You might find out something truthful for once.
The truth is that all trade deals via the EU cease when we leave.
The truth is that we will be a distressed trading partner.
Now twist that.
Organisers of recent rallies have exaggerated attendance figures by a factor anywhere between x2 and x5 so 130k is probably closest to the truth.
The official line is that the campaign is neither for nor against Brexit :smuggrin: they merely want the electorate to have a say on the final deal.
Believe that, you’ll believe anything.
Just another day of Remain lies.
The truth is we have no idea what arrangement has been made - and one clearly is on the verge of being an announced - and whatever is a transition period will mean the deals won’t cease in March
Never said they would end in March. I think it is more likely to be a fudge to enable the transition period to be extended. This kicking the disaster down the road.
It gives time to get facts on the table before the inevitable people’s vote, or election on the subject. I hope we have an opposition party prepared to oppose Brexit by that time. Corbyn is not the opposition in this case. He is what was called a „Mitläufer“ because he won’t stop Brexit.
Horse meat scams still happen in the EU. But our standards will drop when we leave?
Europol says 66 people have been arrested over the horsemeat scandal
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/02...-the-true-extent-of-europes-power-in-britain/
Bad Romanian horse meat stampedes across Europe - IRPI
Haha. Now take a look at Farage‘s statement about millions.
Take a look at the people in the hall at his leave means leave rally. Virtually all of them ageing. The men had greying, grey or receeding hair. No, or very few, young people ( or youngsters as Farage likes to say ). These people want us to leave at all costs, thus damaging the future of younger people.
I know whose side I am on. Not the older generation of pensioners , but the future of Britain.
It looked like an OAP outing.
There is no chance of a people’s referendum - why is it called that? Didn’t people vote last time. Once the treaty period ends in March there’s no chance of a return,.
There is an opposition party - they were massacred at the last election
It reminded me of a Hitler youth rally. Deluded fools being led to the Fourth Reich with the ghastly Alistair Campbell as the Pied Piper
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