skybluetony176
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Me according to you. Are you now admitting that you’re wrong?
So who said it then Tony?
Are you brave enough to say?
Not like you and Tony. It is clear you are trying to change history here.
The rates at the time of the potato famine was for the island of Ireland. The rates in the 40’s and 50’s were for the country of Ireland ie not including the provenance of Ulster.Yes......since the potato famine. This is when it was at the present rate leaving Romania now. Just like I said earlier. But you still try to make out that I am wrong.
You would think that I have had a go at the EU with the way you two have been. It isn't the fault of the EU. The money given to Romania has been wasted and not been used for the future. But miss out this part. You normally do.
When I am right?Me according to you. Are you now admitting that you’re wrong?
I brought it up before. Somehow you missed it. And it wasn't as high as you said. But even if it was it would be well under half of that in Romania.Look at emigration from Ireland in the 40’s and 50’s under De Velera’s rule as Taoiseach. That was it’s peak. It was over half a million from a country that barely had a population of five million at the time. Just to be clear I’m talking about the country of Ireland not the island of Ireland.
It was that rate throughout Ireland. Everybody suffered. It was leave or risk starvation.The rates at the time of the potato famine was for the island of Ireland. The rates in the 40’s and 50’s were for the country of Ireland ie not including the provenance of Ulster.
It was that rate throughout Ireland. Everybody suffered. It was leave or risk starvation.
So why are the pair of you trying to rewrite history? Is it to take the news away from Tusk saying that Poland is at grave risk of leaving the EU and that the EU would most probably not try anywhere near as hard to get them to stay in the EU? I wonder why they wouldn't try as hard.
I brought it up before. Somehow you missed it. And it wasn't as high as you said. But even if it was it would be well under half of that in Romania.
Evidence of a quarter of Ireland leaving as you said?
"Omniscient "So now it has progressed from emigration to mass exodus.
Also, as something who is omnipresent and only 'speaks the truth', I am sure you are aware that Romania is about 5-times the size Ireland, population wise.
You never said what?Again, I never said that. You’ve admitted that once and now you’ve changed your mind again and I apparently did say it again.
Also the Romanian emigration isn’t completely permanent. The numbers that settle for good outside of Romania will be far less. I suspect that you’re looking at gross numbers not nett.
Romania is the same for people leaving Ireland it is said. Although the sidesteps, backsteps and insults tell the whole story.What is being discussed here? I’m confused on this Irish Romania discussion
You never said what?
And yes it is overall...as you call nett. The amount their population has gone down by.
So what is there to suggest most of the Romanians will go back to Romania? The money given to them has been wasted as I said earlier. The country is in a worse state now than before. A lot of the older people rely on money sent to them from those who have left.
And why no comment yet about what Tusk has said about the grave possibility of Poland leaving the EU and them not trying to keep them in as much as they are with the UK? Struggling to think of excuses for him?
Tusks job finishes next year. He has been asked if he will be returning to politics in Poland. But he hasn't replied. Many see him as a traitor. This is the least biased from either side I could find.
Tusk says Poland risks following UK out of EU | Reuters
All the evidence is here in your own words. Do you think anyone who isn't biased would be taken in by what you are now saying?Why would I talk about Tusk and entertain you in the distraction you’re clambering too?
All the evidence is here in your own words. Do you think anyone who isn't biased would be taken in by what you are now saying?
Of course you don't want to comment on what Tusk has been saying. You make out that the whole of the EU is string and together. You would have to call Tusk a liar for this to be true.
And there is the pyramid scheme that lost thousands of Polish people their life savings when he was PM. A part of it was an airline that employed his son. The hearing continued on Monday. Maybe this is something to do with what he has said about Poland leaving the EU.
Tusk grilled by Polish MPs in pyramid scheme probe
What is being discussed here? I’m confused on this Irish Romania discussion
It was to highlight how EU membership has made Ireland more prosperous and reduced emigration. Unless you too believe that Irish emigration was only an issue during the Potato famine?
The potato famine? Fucking hell.
As expected.
Yes it is good that they can earn good money. And we should turn a blind eye to the rest of it. It is fantastic news that up to a quarter of the population has left. And even better that most that have left are of working age. And even better that they can't fill vacancies because they can earn many times more in other places in the EU.
So answer one thing. What does the future hold for Romania?
More Irish people still emigrating than moving backIt was to highlight how EU membership has made Ireland more prosperous and reduced emigration. Unless you too believe that Irish emigration was only an issue during the Potato famine?
Romania is a deeply impoverished country and according to any economic projection will remain so for several generations
All the evidence is here in your own words. Do you think anyone who isn't biased would be taken in by what you are now saying?
Of course you don't want to comment on what Tusk has been saying. You make out that the whole of the EU is string and together. You would have to call Tusk a liar for this to be true.
Same as the Dems recapturing the House in the USA
Oh...so you are still scouring the www for negative stories then? But fair balance is either beyond you or it is an indication of a media bandwagon of anit-Brexit reporting. Why? Simply because all of you seem to have missed or ignored this...
Answered what question?I answered your questions and you ignore it to concentrate on your distraction. No surprise.
How about showing how high it was when stated?It was to highlight how EU membership has made Ireland more prosperous and reduced emigration. Unless you too believe that Irish emigration was only an issue during the Potato famine?
Are you going to mention how worried the French are in the North of France? Are you going to mention the estimated 20,000 job losses in Germany in the car industry?
Was it?You don’t get the comparison but then go on to spell it out impeccably. Ireland was very much the same in the period that Romania is being compared to it.
Huh? It was an abysmal performance by the Democrats. The Republicans "recaptured" TWICE as many seats during Obama's first term in office and Trump is safely on course to win a second term as President.
Tony only understands the jobs axed.Oh...so you are still scouring the www for negative stories then? But fair balance is either beyond you or it is an indication of a media bandwagon of anit-Brexit reporting. Why? Simply because all of you seem to have missed or ignored this...
"Lloyds to axe 6,000 jobs, create 8,000 new roles - Sky News" - Lloyds to axe 6,000 jobs, create 8,000 new roles: Sky News | Reuters
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We have a few candidates for that title.Ha ha anyone who thinks the democrats has a good night is an utter moron
More Irish people still emigrating than moving back
Tthe number of graduates leaving is rising, up 15 per cent since last year, which Fianna Fáil spokesperson on jobs Niall Collins said was an indication that “graduates are prioritising quality of life and cost of living when deciding where to work”.
“The annual action plan for jobs is failing to retain skilled Irish talent with decent jobs domestically. With rising living costs across all metrics and acute housing shortages, the country has severe competitiveness and policy challenges to overcome this deficit,” he said.
“Can our country really afford to be losing 500 graduates every week, many of whom are medical and nursing graduates who are desperately needed in the Irish health service?”
The number of 20-somethings living in Ireland overall has dropped dramatically since 2011, from 756,300 to 640,300, a fall of more than 15 per cent.
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