I don't know if this is tinfoil hat time, but I can't help but think this deal has been put together in this way so to make the remainers and leavers both unhappy.
So unhappy there ends up being another vote.
Another vote that would include a 'remain' option.
Not trying to come across as a twat, but this whole thing stinks...
Was that real or fake ?!It is not as if they haven't had recent lessons in the duplicity of our wonderful politicians.
Was that real or fake ?!
I think leave would win again if there was ever another referendum.
This is why you should not be allowed to vote.
The Treaty of the Functioning of the EU (The 4 freedoms)You got any examples?
isn't that you ?!I doubt whether EU migration would continue at that rate as average wages in former East Bloc countries are rising. More like non EU migrants will be caring for the baby boomers when they are older. Refugee quota is Merkel’s aim.
I reckon it could go either way but would be close than before.
Not sure what you're going on about.
Whatever way it went - we'd have an even more divisive country than we have now.
Tell us something newIt was a bribe, and it appears that it may turn out to be a not very successful one.
The Northern Ireland people under the constitution of the Agreement can call a referendum at any time to leave the UK
What before the Cabinet? I doubt it tbh. There have been odd snippets from some insiders perhaps that have only given part information which they are basing the rants on. Then when they see the detail (which will have positives highlited to them) they will be calmer...maybe still opposed but less so.How do you know that they haven’t seen it? They seem pretty adamant about it so at the very least they’ve been briefed on it.
The obvious solution would have been to accept that the country needed to leave but to consider the large minority who wished to stay - adopt the Norway option which is out of the Eu, restricts law making influences from the EU and allows a customs union
Not so long ago...many didn't see there even being a deal! I think you were among them. BUT we have a deal - getting it through (on both sides of the channel) is a different matter.Just watching the news and it’s comical. Can’t see this deal happening. Any customs union is apparently temporary so labour won’t back it, Northern Ireland is apparently going to have a different arrangement to the rest of the U.K. so the DUP won’t back it, SNP has already said that they won’t back anything that involves leaving the single market and customs union and on top of that they’ve made the very good point that they have strong trading links with Northern Ireland so they’re going to have to have one trading arrangement with one part of the U.K. and a different trading arrangement with the rest of the U.K. which is mental, Scottish Tories are talking about a revolt on fishing and the Welsh simply seem to have been forgotten about all together.
Cabinet meeting still hasn’t finished either. 4+ hours now.
Then when they see the detail (which will have positives highlited to them) they will be calmer
Not so long ago...many didn't see there even being a deal! I think you were among them. BUT we have a deal - getting it through (on both sides of the channel) is a different matter.
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It means you should follow & support the leadership's vision & decisions without question.Is being a Labour voter meaning I must forget what the leaders have done?
You have said in the same post about Bliar. I have just posted about Corbyn and how he changes his mind to suit what he wants the voters to think. Should I pretend to like either of them because I am a Labour voter?
Struth...that is never gonna be a fun night in is it?She’s meeting Arlene Foster tonight apparently.
He means that think!Two people that think what?
The obvious solution would have been to accept that the country needed to leave but to consider the large minority who wished to stay - adopt the Norway option which is out of the Eu, restricts law making influences from the EU and allows a customs union
Well everyone else is calling it a deal. It has to be passed though.This isn't a deal and it's definitely not Brexit. Remaining in the EU is better than this sell out. It has no chance of getting through parliament.
Not so long ago...many didn't see there even being a deal! I think you were among them. BUT we have a deal - getting it through (on both sides of the channel) is a different matter.
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Watching the news, a terrible thought entered my head. Imagine having sex with Theresa May..
It would never have worked (as in the country/public accepting it) as we would have to accept the four freedoms. Looked at it a bit back and this is an interesting (unbiased I think) article.
The Norway model is back on the Brexit agenda — here's what that means
What a mess the current situation is ! However, I suppose it all depends whether people believe an agreement will be reached during the transition period....will EU act in good faith (try to get a trade deal or leave us hanging), will any future deal be able to resolve the Irish border issue etc etc.
Don’t think the current proposal will get through parliament though. Just can’t see how the mathematics will work.
She’s meeting Arlene Foster tonight apparently.
isn't that you ?!
So who are you blaming for everything?The money taken from my salary to pay off the £35k of student debt isn't enough to pay off the interest never mind the loans. The 2008 recession was the worst since 1929 and happened just as I went off to university. I graduated 5 years after that with a 1st class Masters and industrial experience but nobody was hiring. As for climate change it has gone on steroids in the past few decades despite there being far more evidence than there was for those around in the industrial revolution. Oh, and let's not forget the long list of failed military interventions. And the tremendous shit show that constitutes Brexit.
Instead the government denies young people a living wage, takes away maintenance grants and EMA, and refuses to fund education in line with inflation.
Easier said than done though.The obvious solution would have been to accept that the country needed to leave but to consider the large minority who wished to stay - adopt the Norway option which is out of the Eu, restricts law making influences from the EU and allows a customs union
Logic always said there would be a deal. The EU countries do too much trade with us to just show us the middle finger. It was the one card we always had in our favour. There are thousands of companies in the EU that depend on trade with us. Many of these are in countries with high unemployment rates. They are in countries that already take money out of the EU.Not so long ago...many didn't see there even being a deal! I think you were among them. BUT we have a deal - getting it through (on both sides of the channel) is a different matter.
Remain in the EU doesn't seem to be an option.The deal seems to be basically shitloads of concessions and removal of veto-rights with a curtailment of freedom of movement in return. Absolutely fucking rubbish.
Not so long ago...many didn't see there even being a deal! I think you were among them. BUT we have a deal - getting it through (on both sides of the channel) is a different matter.
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It means you should follow & support the leadership's vision & decisions without question.
Just like as a CCFC supporter...I hope you were a regular at Sixfields? Lol
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