We may well have a second referendum.
You. All others and around half of ours see the benefits which is why the EU won’t budge on FOM.
Oh dear.
If the majority wanted another referendum we would have one.
27.5 countries? Which don't see the benefits of FOM then?
Just a thought, but can we have a Christmas Truce tomorrow?
Merry Christmas Mart...Yes. I thought we were on one. Still occasional fire coming in though. Anyway, I am sitting in front of my Christmas tree having had my German Christmas. Family and presents. Tomorrow is my English Christmas with my daughter and her boyfriend. Merry Christmas to everyone.
Hear hear...Merry Christmas & Peace to one & all...including MartMerry Christmas Mart...
Pre Iraq was all the plans of John Smith. The tax was the Tory rates for the first couple of years. The problems started as soon as Bliar wanted to put his mark on everything.I said up to Iraq.
Not everyone. I'm not sat in thereYep merry Christmas everyone just sat in the choir at midnight mass
From midnight I hope.Just a thought, but can we have a Christmas Truce tomorrow?
I'm enjoying the peace. Kids still not up. Do the usual trick. Put the younger kids in same bedroom. They keep each other awake so long they don't wake up until late. And wife loves her sleep after knocking back a couple of bottles of wine while wrapping the last of the prezzies.Are we playing football and singing silent night?
She couldn't be worse than Boris. Even Hunt looks far more competent.
The laziest foreign secretary I've ever worked with according to one civil servant.
The BBC show the Foreign office showed what an absolute moron he is.
And the fact that Boris or hunt gets the gig over Rory Stewart just shows that in the Tory party the school you went to is still far more important than your actual ability.
And here is the problem.Eton College and Balliol, Oxford.
That’s Roty Stewart‘s education btw. Right qualifications for the Tory government. Or Labour possibly.
I think that’s a little unfair. Tax credits made a huge difference to the lives of many as did the investment in schools and other public services, Iraq was a terrible tragedy for democracy and the Middle East and he had a god complex so won’t admit his error and never willAnd here is the problem.
I want the Labour party to be run by people with life experience. I don't want those who a bad life experience was having to turn up at school in the wrong car because daddy bought the wrong Merc. Or not going skiing in the most trendy place. I don't want them running around the world trying to sort out world peace with every nasty dictator alive.
I want them to know what it is like to see people in the gutter. I want them to know about the problems that normal people have. Like do they feed the electric meter or do they feed the family. I want them to have compassion for those not having a good time. I want them to want to help. I don't want the sound bites to win votes and then forget about what they have said.
Tony Bliar had a privileged upbringing. He had a private education at top schools/higher education. He became a Tory in disguise. He did a better job of taking off the poor to give to the rich that many Tories have done. Together with Brown they have done so much damage that it can never be reversed. Companies of all sizes are still failing because of what they did. And all in the name of Labour.
So no. I don't want toffs running the Labour party. That should be down to people with life experience that want to help their own.
Money was promised to the schools that didn't materialise. There was going to be specialised help going into classes. It got reduced to teachers help. There was going to be pay rises for teachers. It also didn't materialise. It was down to performance related rises. Lack of morale really took off in the time of Bliar.I think that’s a little unfair. Tax credits made a huge difference to the lives of many as did the investment in schools and other public services, Iraq was a terrible tragedy for democracy and the Middle East and he had a god complex so won’t admit his error and never will
I’m happy we need intelligent people who understand how the system works in order to maximise their impact but and it’s a big one labour has lost its heritage and has now been hijacked by a number who are more interested in pure socialism than gaining some measure of power to make a genuine difference
It’s the art of what’s possible. Lots of friends in education saw significant differences. I don’t disagree companies should pay living wage but made a huge difference to many familiesMoney was promised to the schools that didn't materialise. There was going to be specialised help going into classes. It got reduced to teachers help. There was going to be pay rises for teachers. It also didn't materialise. It was down to performance related rises. Lack of morale really took off in the time of Bliar.
And tax credits would be good if the companies that people work for didn't use them to their advantage. People should be much better off for working and not just slightly with problems being caused because of it.
Tony Blair on educationIt’s the art of what’s possible. Lots of friends in education saw significant differences. I don’t disagree companies should pay living wage but made a huge difference to many families
The problem is that it was from 2002. As you can see it missed targets and got worse as it went along.
I agreed with you but saw first hand the differences from 97 it all changed 2002The problem is that it was from 2002. As you can see it missed targets and got worse as it went along.
How about the links I put up for you? They showed what happened with education and what the Tories actually thought of Bliar. He continued with giving the rich tax breaks and hitting the poor. He carried on where the Tories finished. And all this isn't even considering the Iraq war.
He had a very privileged upbringing. A typical Tory upbringing. And he acted just like a Tory leader. And the Tories loved what he did. He was PM when our population went up at the fastest rate. But house building was at its lowest rate. This led to the problems we now have.
Education spending as a percentage of GDP actually increased until the change of government.I agreed with you but saw first hand the differences from 97 it all changed 2002
It’s the art of what’s possible. Lots of friends in education saw significant differences. I don’t disagree companies should pay living wage but made a huge difference to many families
Not just teaching, but various other public sector areas too.The difference teaching under Labour and Conservatives was night and day. It felt like we were making progress, however slowly, under Labour. Once the Tories got in it was someone slammed the car into reverse.
Not just teaching, but various other public sector areas too.
Now there's a fair amount I certainly wasn't a fan of (PFI stores up issues for a short term fix - really we have to get back to a culture where people realise if they want something to happen, then somebody has to pay for it, and this means a choice of either higher taxes for more spending, or lower taxes and less public spending - you can't do lower taxes and more public spending bar an economic miracle!) but it's fair to say the last Labour government attempted to address some severe shortfalls in spending.
FWIW, Hammond seems a more pragmatic chancellor than Osborne, who seemed welded to dogma, so I have higher hopes in that respect than I did under the Tory party pre-referendum,... apart from the fact Brexit could cause serious issues short term, where spending is the easy thing to home in on and cut - especially if Hammond falls with his Prime Minister.
Boo hoo hoo. The taxpayer is no longer subsiding private pensions with tax breaks. When will the injustice end?
Jesus wept. I remember now why I had you on ignore and now will again.
Astute is right. You really are one clueless thick fucker.
Tony you are on ignore again
I only really chose to look to see how far you are still up the trusts arse. It seems so far up you’ve probably found your way into Moz’s mouth (poor chap)
It’s embarrassing Tony. Isn’t it time you manned up and started to back the club?
Tony’s found a link, Tony’s found a link....
Just a shit one
Savers could have lost £230bn in Brown’s pensions raid
Stick to being the Trust groupie. It’s more your style
Bliar got voted in on promises he didn't keep.The difference teaching under Labour and Conservatives was night and day. It felt like we were making progress, however slowly, under Labour. Once the Tories got in it was someone slammed the car into reverse.
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