Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
I think it’s a case of crossed wires. Least I hope it is
Me too. I just answered a question with a historical fact that I know from history lessons. For what it is worth, I did A Level in modern history.
That makes me a super Nazi following Astute‘s crazed logic.
This thread clearly suggests otherwise
I think it’s a case of crossed wires. Least I hope it is
This thread clearly suggests otherwise
Where? I said that bombing civilians is counted as a war crime today.as in Syria. Is that distasteful? You seem to think that bombing civilians is ok, and that RMs justification for concentration camps is ok. And then accuse me of being a Nazi.
I suspect it is a distraction from the RM concentration camp discussion. Accuse the accusers is a tactic.
You said it was in the Second World War as well and openly compared the two and condemned the Dresden bombing
It’s a stupid and disrespectful comparison and Rees mogg never justified then
Correct.
He said that the Germans who started a war to take over Europe then murdered and killed many, many millions would have found Churchill guilty of bombing civilians and found themselves innocent of all charges.
Then the usual suspects turn up to defend everything that he says.
I said it was justified?
Would you like to point out where I have said that?
Of course not as I haven't. But it is a lie that looks good in a comment against someone who finds what you are saying very distasteful.
...because the Nazis obviously wouldn’t prosecute themselves. In fact if they’d won then the death camps would have been a state secret (like the Katyn massacre and Molotov-Ribbentrop pact were for the Soviets). The victors get to write history.
If the Nazis win their propaganda goes unchallenged and Hitler would clearly have gone after Churchill and Stalin. It was either him or Goebbels who called him the ‘gravedigger of Europe’. I fail to see how this makes martcov a Nazi sympathiser, genuinely.
JRM said it was done compassionately to help feed Boer families. Ignoring that it was only a necessity because we burned all their property and destroyed all the food. In Kitchener’s own words it was a deliberate policy.
Your aristocratic idol is wrong but my guess is you think the British Empire was great irrespective
You said it was in the Second World War as well and openly compared the two and condemned the Dresden bombing
It’s a stupid and disrespectful comparison and Rees mogg never justified then
I think it’s a case of crossed wires. Least I hope it is
You said it was in the Second World War as well and openly compared the two and condemned the Dresden bombing
It’s a stupid and disrespectful comparison and Rees mogg never justified then
No I think your comments comparing Churchill to a terrorist and brutaliser of his own people is shameful
Correct.
He said that the Germans who started a war to take over Europe then murdered and killed many, many millions would have found Churchill guilty of bombing civilians and found themselves innocent of all charges.
Then the usual suspects turn up to defend everything that he says.
Maybe if I did the same and always had a go at the UK and defended Germany you would agree with me like you do Mart.
Yes he did. He claimed that the death rate was the same as Glasgow. Aside from the fact he deliberately didn’t compare it to the death rate in South Africa outside of the camps when the government took direct control of the camps from the army following lobbying from decent MPs and pressure groups we stopped deliberately starving people and stopped the practice of deliberately not treating illnesses. Guess what? The death rates fell. Dramatically. He also tried to make out that they were refugees when in fact they were homeless because we operated a scorched earth policy that included burning down homesteads, salting the earth so crops wouldn’t grow and poisoning wells. Did you actually watch the program? If you did you would know that he didn’t mention any of that. Did you click on the link I gave you? If you did you would know that the reality was nothing like the picture RM was painting. Your notion that RM didn’t defend it is ridiculous in the extreme because he painted an entirely fictional picture of the camps.
Where have I defended Germany by saying the Nazis classed Churchill as a war criminal? The Nazis are no longer in power and lost the war BTW. You can stop hating EU foreigners now.
I'm surprised we haven't got round to discussing the fact that Rees Mogg and McDonnell both own some Black Russian Gerbils, so are clearly in the pay of Putin.
Bloody Marxist gerbils.... coming over here with their socialism....
I don't play the victim.You do spouit some absolute bollocks.
Seriously, you seem an OK bloke, but on this thread you've gone utterly barking mad, playing the victim, reading things that aren't there, and deciding the world is against you.
Step away from the keyboard!
And now you have made up more crap....because the Nazis obviously wouldn’t prosecute themselves. In fact if they’d won then the death camps would have been a state secret (like the Katyn massacre and Molotov-Ribbentrop pact were for the Soviets). The victors get to write history.
If the Nazis win their propaganda goes unchallenged and Hitler would clearly have gone after Churchill and Stalin. It was either him or Goebbels who called him the ‘gravedigger of Europe’. I fail to see how this makes martcov a Nazi sympathiser, genuinely.
No. You keep on going on about everyone who has bombed civilians. Yet your get out clause on Germany is that if they had won the war they wouldn't have found themselves guilty.Where? I said that bombing civilians is counted as a war crime today.as in Syria. Is that distasteful? You seem to think that bombing civilians is ok, and that RMs justification for concentration camps is ok. And then accuse me of being a Nazi.
Nobody has said any differently. But guess the person who lists what everyone did except for Germany.Nobody’s writing alternative histories here. Allied crimes, while nowhere near comparable to the Holocaust, did still happen. It was British policy to carpet bomb, even well into 1945. History is nuanced
Ah didn't take you long to be a cock again did it?If you haven’t said it was justified then WTF are you ranting on about? By the way, someone did say it was justified so why not have a go at them for that? Given your self proclaimed neutrality.
Did you say that Germany would have found themselves innocent of all charges?More lies.
Where did I say that? You are hallucinating.
So now the Nazis wouldn't have classed Churchill as a war criminal?Where have I defended Germany by saying the Nazis classed Churchill as a war criminal? The Nazis are no longer in power and lost the war BTW. You can stop hating EU foreigners now.
Ah didn't take you long to be a cock again did it?
Mart liked your post
So now the Nazis wouldn't have classed Churchill as a war criminal?
You still haven't explained why you started all this crap off. Why did you start on Churchill?
Did you say that Germany would have found themselves innocent of all charges?
Did Germany start the war and murder millions of people?
Of course you didn't mention the mass murders by Germany. You have forgotten to mention anything bad they have done. But you still make the point that Churchill is a war criminal.
Me hallucinating? No. You piss me off having a dig at the UK whenever you can.
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