The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (7 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Well I am very pleased with this. It’s a small point but important overall.

I really wish I had so little to worry about in life that the colour of my passport was important to me.

 

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[Sick Boy]

But all have the same passport. Bar Czechs.

I dont really disagree with your first point but then that was why brexit was voted for. To take back control. That included passports.

If that is the case then it has serious issues that has little to do with Brexit. For what it's worth, I majorly disagree and think each country in Europe has its own identity, particularly the UK.

 

[chiefdave]

The words are more important anyway as we get to drop the words European Union off our passports. The navy blue colour is just a symbolic bonus.

Fair enough. Can't say that has ever registered as an issue in the slightest for me. I'd struggle to tell you anything that was printed on my passport.

I do like the idea of getting your passport stamped when we go to a European country in the future but that's just because I like having stamps in my passport!

 

[Sick Boy]

My renewed Irish passport arrived this morning and it is definitely different from my British one both on the outside and inside.

 

[chiefdave]

At least people won't get us mixed up with the other Europeans now. They might mistake us for Argentinian, Haitian, Iraqi, Somali, Sudanese or one of the other countries we now share a passport colour with!

 

[skybluetony176]

My renewed Irish passport arrived this morning and it is definitely different from my British one both on the outside and inside.

Just had my application arrive in the post. Cheers Mum for being born on the island of Ireland.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Just had my application arrive in the post. Cheers Mum for being born on the island of Ireland.

Why are you paying for a new passport? What are you going to get from that which is extra than a UK one?

 

[chiefdave]

Why are you paying for a new passport? What are you going to get from that which is extra than a UK one?

Presumably to retain citizenship of the EU.

 

[Kingokings204]

I really wish I had so little to worry about in life that the colour of my passport was important to me.

No you probably you wouldn’t understand as you didn’t vote for brexit. The blue passports and dropping of the words European Union is a symbolic gesture of winning the referendum and that we can now be an indepedant sovereign normal nation again.

 

[clint van damme]

No you probably you wouldn’t understand as you didn’t vote for brexit. The blue passports and dropping of the words European Union is a symbolic gesture of winning the referendum and that we can now be an indepedant sovereign normal nation again.

I don't understand because I have more important things to worry about.
What is how anyone voted got anything to do with it?!
If remain had won they could have had any colour passport, any slogan and I wouldn't have given a single fuck.
Growth constantly down graded and IMF warning about recession, (hopefully they' re, as usual wrong), but you're more worried about the colour of your passport!!

 

[Kingokings204]

If that is the case then it has serious issues that has little to do with Brexit. For what it's worth, I majorly disagree and think each country in Europe has its own identity, particularly the UK.

Well that’s fine. Me and you are on completely different sides of the referendum. It’s normal.

My opinion is a steps towards taking back control and i happen to like it.

 

[skybluetony176]

Why are you paying for a new passport? What are you going to get from that which is extra than a UK one?

For many reasons. Guaranteed right to settle in the EU when I retire. Retention of my European health card. Not everyone I travel with are from the UK so we won’t get split up at passport control when entering the EU or indeed re-entering the UK If you qualify for dual nationality with an EU country it would be stupid not to take it up now. As it happens all our cards can fall once we’ve sorted it all out me, the wife and kids will all have benefit of dual nationality with an EU country. We’re brexit proofing ourselves.

 

[Kingokings204]

I don't understand because I have more important things to worry about.
What is how anyone voted got anything to do with it?!
If remain had won they could have had any colour passport, any slogan and I wouldn't have given a single fuck.
Growth constantly down graded and IMF warning about recession, (hopefully they' re, as usual wrong), but you're more worried about the colour of your passport!!

What on earth are you on about?

I happened to mention I find it the colour and words European Union dropped on our passports a good thing and you blather on about the IMF who have a 3-4% record is it of being right in their forecasts.

Your post Sounds like you’ve got lots more to worry about than me, you’re right.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

For many reasons. Guaranteed right to settle in the EU when I retire. Retention of my European health card. Not everyone I travel with are from the UK so we won’t get split up at passport control when entering the EU or indeed re-entering the UK If you qualify for dual nationality with an EU country it would be stupid not to take it up now. As it happens all our cards can fall once we’ve sorted it all out me, the wife and kids will all have benefit of dual nationality with an EU country. We’re brexit proofing ourselves.

1) Guaranteed right to settle in the EU when I retire. In Strasbourg/Burssels, or do you mean the continent of Europe? Either way, it is not going to be a problem.
2) Retention of my European health card. Fair enough, but with European citizens visiting the UK, you would think there would be some measures put in place for both parties.
3) Not everyone I travel with are from the UK so we won’t get split up at passport control when entering the EU or indeed re-entering the UK If you qualify for dual nationality with an EU country it would be stupid not to take it up now. To be honest, getting a new passport so you can be in the same queue as someone else seems a bit over the top.
4) As it happens all our cards can fall once we’ve sorted it all out me, the wife and kids will all have benefit of dual nationality with an EU country.
We’re brexit proofing ourselves. - You've certainly been preparing yourself for the very worse to happen and I think that's down to remain scare tactics. I honestly don't think you'll have anything to worry about.

 

[Sick Boy]

Why are you paying for a new passport? What are you going to get from that which is extra than a UK one?

Freedom of movement?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Freedom of movement?

Do you think only people with an EU passport will be able to travel to Italy?

 

[clint van damme]

What on earth are you on about?

I happened to mention I find it the colour and words European Union dropped on our passports a good thing and you blather on about the IMF who have a 3-4% record is it of being right in their forecasts.

Your post Sounds like you’ve got lots more to worry about than me, you’re right.

because until we know the country is heading in the right direction economically and politically I find it hard to understand why anyone would find even a crumb of comfort in a change of passport colour -it's fairly straight forward.

Of course I've got more to worry about than you, you're a man that can find contentment in the colour of his passport.

 

[martcov]

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No you probably you wouldn’t understand as you didn’t vote for brexit. The blue passports and dropping of the words European Union is a symbolic gesture of winning the referendum and that we can now be an indepedant sovereign normal nation again.

So that means the UK is so divided that leavers will be chomping at the bit for their blue ones and remainers waiting until 2019 to get a burgundy one for as long as possible. We can now tell who voted what by our passports? Maybe we should have colour coded passports fitting our votes in the election?

 

[clint van damme]

Why are you paying for a new passport? What are you going to get from that which is extra than a UK one?

you maintain the same freedom of movement rights.
I think I'll be getting one. It will probably never leave my draw but my son wants to go into hospitality so it will then entitle him to one which help him to move/work more freely in Europe which he expects to be doing in the next few years..

 

[skybluetony176]

1) Guaranteed right to settle in the EU when I retire. In Strasbourg/Burssels, or do you mean the continent of Europe? Either way, it is not going to be a problem.
2) Retention of my European health card. Fair enough, but with European citizens visiting the UK, you would think there would be some measures put in place for both parties.
3) Not everyone I travel with are from the UK so we won’t get split up at passport control when entering the EU or indeed re-entering the UK If you qualify for dual nationality with an EU country it would be stupid not to take it up now. To be honest, getting a new passport so you can be in the same queue as someone else seems a bit over the top.
4) As it happens all our cards can fall once we’ve sorted it all out me, the wife and kids will all have benefit of dual nationality with an EU country.
We’re brexit proofing ourselves. - You've certainly been preparing yourself for the very worse to happen and I think that's down to remain scare tactics. I honestly don't think you'll have anything to worry about.

1) How do you know it’s not going to be a problem?

2) No guarantees without EU citerzinship.

3) It’s not the only reason but a family splitting up at passport control will be a pain in the ass when a solution is available and all it requires is filling a form out every 10 years with very little outlay why wouldn’t you? We’ll pay many times that for priority boarding and private transfers over 10 years for convenience. It’s an easy solution for nothing in comparison. We’d be mad not to take the option.

4) Why wouldn’t I be preparing myself for the worse? I love my family and I’ll do what’s right by them thanks. Scare tactics has nothing to do with it. I’m doing this to deal with the realities of brexit not the arguments made in the remain campaign which I never bought into anyway. This is a reaction to what’s happened since the referendum not what went before. This is a decision that we made in the last couple of weeks.

 

[skybluetony176]

Do you think only people with an EU passport will be able to travel to Italy?

Settle and work is the issue not travel.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

you maintain the same freedom of movement rights.
I think I'll be getting one. It will probably never leave my draw but my son wants to go into hospitality so it will then entitle him to one which help him to move/work more freely in Europe which he expects to be doing in the next few years..

Obviously I wish all the best to your son. It might help him, but it is probably unlikely. I can't see how having a UK passport is going to be a massive disadvantage. No matter who says who has the upper hand in negotiations etc, it's two way street. European citizens will still be working here the same way we will still be working there. Yes, there might be a bit more red tape, but I cannot see it entrapping most careers.

What does he want to do in hospitality? I worked in hotels for quite a while. Some of it was really good, some of it really terrible. Picking good employers is really important in my experience, in this field more than many.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Settle and work is the issue not travel.

Again, I fully respect your concern. I just cannot see it being a major problem.

 

[clint van damme]

Obviously I wish all the best to your son. It might help him, but it is probably unlikely. I can't see how having a UK passport is going to be a massive disadvantage. No matter who says who has the upper hand in negotiations etc, it's two way street. European citizens will still be working here the same way we will still be working there. Yes, there might be a bit more red tape, but I cannot see it entrapping most careers.

What does he want to do in hospitality? I worked in hotels for quite a while. Some of it was really good, some of it really terrible. Picking good employers is really important in my experience, in this field more than many.

He'll have both, wouldn't let his UK passport expire.
Chef, only 15 so a long way to go yet. He's currently got the work ethic of a golden jubilee program seller so he'll need to up his game significantly!

 

[skybluetony176]

Again, I fully respect your concern. I just cannot see it being a major problem.

How do you know?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

1) How do you know it’s not going to be a problem?

2) No guarantees without EU citerzinship.

3) It’s not the only reason but a family splitting up at passport control will be a pain in the ass when a solution is available and all it requires is filling a form out every 10 years with very little outlay why wouldn’t you? We’ll pay many times that for priority boarding and private transfers over 10 years for convenience. It’s an easy solution for nothing in comparison. We’d be mad not to take the option.

4) Why wouldn’t I be preparing myself for the worse? I love my family and I’ll do what’s right by them thanks. Scare tactics has nothing to do with it. I’m doing this to deal with the realities of brexit not the arguments made in the remain campaign which I never bought into anyway. This is a reaction to what’s happened since the referendum not what went before. This is a decision that we made in the last couple of weeks.

I don't know it is not going to be a problem, I'm just very sure it won't be. The EU have to protect their citizens too. If they want a good deal for them, we will need to have a good deal too.

I can understand the health point because that is always one thing I have said the EU is good for. It's certainly a good benefit. Again though, I can't see any French people being left to die on hospital beds, or being charged extortionate rates for bandages. I also doubt we will be kept in seperate holding pens like lepers in airports. It just won't happen.

Prepare yourself for the worst, but I'm prepared to put my neck on the line and say you will be fine. Sadly my opinion won't be worth that much, I understand...

 

[Sick Boy]

@Earlsdon_Skyblue1 if your future children wanted EU passports, I'm sure youd be all for it?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He'll have both, wouldn't let his UK passport expire.
Chef, only 15 so a long way to go yet. He's currently got the work ethic of a golden jubilee program seller so he'll need to up his game significantly!

That's good. Best of luck to him.

Can be a very stressful and demanding job, but if he goes into a kitchen with a shitty attitude he will get kicked into shape pretty quickly, so don't worry about that!

 

[Captain Dart]

Freedom of movement?

Ludicrous, where do you think an EU passport will allow entry where a UK passport won't?

 

[clint van damme]

That's good. Best of luck to him.

Can be a very stressful and demanding job, but if he goes into a kitchen with a shitty attitude he will get kicked into shape pretty quickly, so don't worry about that!

I've warned him, long way to go yet though, he could end up doing something totally different.

 

[clint van damme]

Ludicrous, where do you think an EU passport will allow entry where a UK passport won't?

it's not entry, it's the right to work.
As ESB1 says, that may still be in place post Brexit.

 

[Sick Boy]

Ludicrous, where do you think an EU passport will allow entry where a UK passport won't?

Freedom of movement to travel and work. You're likely going to have to apply for a visa which will last for a couple of years at a time.

 

[Sick Boy]

That's good. Best of luck to him.

Can be a very stressful and demanding job, but if he goes into a kitchen with a shitty attitude he will get kicked into shape pretty quickly, so don't worry about that!

Did the same myself from 15-20...hard work and very stressful but strangely a lot of fun!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

@Earlsdon_Skyblue1 if your future children wanted EU passports, I'm sure youd be all for it?

It's completely their choice. They'll be able to if they want to, but by that point I don't think they'll need them either.

I expect everything will have calmed down by then and be a lot more set in stone. Hopefully...

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Did the same myself from 15-20...hard work and very stressful but strangely a lot of fun!

Absolutely.

I loved working with people, but with that you get a lot of pricks as well!