The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (52 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Nick

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Just make a note of who's stockpiled. Go round there if it all goes to shit.

I am just expecting to wake up and the whole world has changed and there's no cars on the road. I am going to go looting don't worry.

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clint van damme

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Are people really going out to stock up on food?

‘Hamster hoarders’ are stocking up on essentials in case of no deal Brexit

Terrified Brits build Brexit stockpiles of water, food and clothes



Attention seeking bellends. "Look at my stash of food"

People need to have a word with themselves. It isn't 28 days later or The Walking Dead.


there could definitely be issues with food in the case of a no deal, (depending on our WTO schedule it could go the other way and we could be flooded with imported food).
Stocking up now is a bit over the top to say the least.
If there's one thing I don't think we'll have a shortage of in this country it's water, and as for clothes, how bad would it have to cause people to run out of clothes?!
 

Liquid Gold

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there could definitely be issues with food in the case of a no deal, (depending on our WTO schedule it could go the other way and we could be flooded with imported food).
Stocking up now is a bit over the top to say the least.
If there's one thing I don't think we'll have a shortage of in this country it's water, and as for clothes, how bad would it have to cause people to run out of clothes?!
All my clothes shrunk over christmas, especially around the midriff. Is this to do with brexit?
 

Astute

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What are you on about? It’s not the transitional period that gets discussed, they’re contingency plans for a no deal
It is what will happen during the transitional period. But of course it will be something different to you.
 

Astute

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1. Where did I say it’d be ‘totally different’. Yet again you’ve made it up - I have continually said that it would be a way to compromise between the two sides, hence it not being ‘totally different’.

2. What would need to be checked? We’d be in the Single Market, eliminating the need for a hard border on the island of Ireland.
1, When I said it would be the same as being in the EU you said it was different. You was also going to say why it was different. But still waiting.

2, Read the link you put up. It says about border checks as you can make your own trade deals. I thought you always read links you put up.
 

Astute

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Your link: The Commission says these measures should not compare with EU membership, or the transition period on offer in the Withdrawal Agreement - which the UK Parliament has yet to vote on.
So what will change in the transitional period?
 

skybluetony176

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1. Where did I say it’d be ‘totally different’. Yet again you’ve made it up - I have continually said that it would be a way to compromise between the two sides, hence it not being ‘totally different’.

2. What would need to be checked? We’d be in the Single Market, eliminating the need for a hard border on the island of Ireland.

The example is the Sweden/Norway border. Free movement of people, cars are rarely stopped unless they trigger an NPR camera and goods lorries are stopped randomly but seldom by customs. It’s not some great unknown littered with issues and it solves the Northern Ireland border issue in one swoop.
 

martcov

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So what will change in the transitional period?

Little, but we lose that if it is no deal. Which is what you want and makes life more difficult, but not impossible. Another great Brexit benefit next to French made blue passports with less power, or a commemorative 50p for use in the toilets. And you say some people still think leave is better than staying. You really have been led up the garden path.
 

Astute

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No. It isn’t it says clearly that the measures will not be as good as having a transition period. Read your own links.
So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.
 

clint van damme

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What foods will there be a shortage of?

when you set your WTO schedule you have to set it for all your trading partners.

Set it too high and it won't be worth foreign suppliers exporting, set it to low and we can be flooded with cheap imports and damage local production so it's a case of getting as balance.

That's one of the reasons why people do trade deals because they're a lot more flexible and only apply to the partner you've singed the deal with.

The government has already submitted one schedule , (which basically sets out your proposed tariffs), but it's been rejected. It only takes one other WTO member to say no and it's rejected though you can appeal but they can be costly and time consuming, I think there's one tariff dispute that's been going on for 20 years.
That's why the whole world spends a lot of time and money trying to get away from WTO schedules where possible and signing up to trading blocs and trade deals. The whole world apart from us, who are on the verge of throwing away membership of the worlds biggest trading bloc and the myriad of trade deals that gives us access to.

This is a bit of a simplified explanation of a very complicated issue but it's the best I can do!!
 

martcov

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So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.

No it doesn’t. It says if there is no deal certain things will be extended 9 months, 1 year or 2 years, but it will be nowhere near as good as if they accept the deal with a transition period. In other words only the essential things such as air travel, lorry licenses, and financial transactions with derivatives.
 

martcov

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So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.

There will be no Transition Period in no deal. That is why they call it no deal. The transition period is dependent on a deal. It’s in the deal which will be rejected tonight.

Enjoy.
 

skybluetony176

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So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.

The transition period is comprehensive and will be implemented over a longer period. A contingency plan is a number of short term fixes because there is no transitional period.
 

Astute

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No it doesn’t. It says if there is no deal certain things will be extended 9 months, 1 year or 2 years, but it will be nowhere near as good as if they accept the deal with a transition period. In other words only the essential things such as air travel, lorry licenses, and financial transactions with derivatives.
So you say that the deal will not be accepted but you want to talk about what will happen when the deal is accepted?

I will say it again. Hardly anything will change with us and the EU whilst talks are ongoing on a trade deal. They have said nothing will change because it would cause harm to the remaining countries in the EU. That makes it also sound as though they will want a trade deal.

So onto food. We produce 50% of what we consume. 30% comes from the EU. The next highest will be 4%. We already trade So this will continue. Or would someone like to point out why it won't.

The reason it was spoken about was queues at ferry ports. But the EU wants it to continue. They don't want the north of France to suffer badly as it would if there are problems. Or are those that always defend them now saying that they are lying?

Just another project fear for now although nothing can be guaranteed in the future.
 

Astute

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Not according to Astute’s link. They made it quite clear that the contingency plans wouldn’t be the same as the transition period.
What contingency plans? Is that for what won't happen?

The EU has said nothing will change. Don't you believe them?
 

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