the issues (4 Viewers)
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bigfatronssba
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Let’s not go over the top.
There is only 1 real issue:
No real leader on the pitch to be the nucleus of the team when Sheaf is injured
There is only 1 real issue:
No real leader on the pitch to be the nucleus of the team when Sheaf is injured
Brylowes
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If he want’s the chefs hat ‘he would probably be better ‘butterflying, bread crumbing & shallow frying’ him
earn your hat!!
GIMOC
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you must be watching different game to me
0 shots on target is a massive concern
Of course, it’s the usual fuckwits moaning about change.
Just don't moan at the end of the season when we quote all the usual bull shit if you want to call fans with moderate views happy clappers.
Any change does take time to land people need to get used to each other and styles. It isn't a bad thing though it means we are growing as a club.
Brylowes
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Our current inefficiency in attack and defence are a direct consequence of our hopelessly unbalanced & lethargic midfield.
Sort the midfield & everything else falls into place imho.
shmmeee
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I don't tend to converse with people who use the term "happy clappers"..... usually a sign of abject unintelligence and/or spending too much time on Twitter....
Ditto people using the term "tinpot"
nicksar
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He 100% went in with the intention of injuring Tats... disgusting tackle.
The MSM?Yeah that’s what the MSM want you to think
Trueskyblue20
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One big positive for me today was Bassette. He looks like he has the potential to be a really good player but the main thing that stood out is how fired up he was and made a difference to the players around him. I feel as a team we seem to be lacking any sense of leadership or anyone who can get the team by the scruff of the neck and push them on but he seems to have it in abundance.
In simple old school terms I think we are way too nice as a team and need a few proper cunts.
In simple old school terms I think we are way too nice as a team and need a few proper cunts.
I'm not sure he actually caught Tats too bad I thought he jumped it mostly and landed funny.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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shmmeee
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The Woke Lamestream Media,
Brighton Sky Blue
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He just looked baffled as to why he was the only one pressing from the front. As was I really, he was on a hiding to nothing with such little support.
Thank you for the translation, yes of course the media want us to look better than we actually are and we definitely didn't see the shots on target with our own eyes.
ccfc1234
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Never throught I would say it but we missed Kelly today. He was old and slow but had game awareness. We really need someone with composure and in built nous who can break up play and start attacks. With the squad were left with I can see Lati back in CM. Dean Austin and Doug King should be embarrassed by their summer work.
Feels like the team lacks decisive actions too often. Systems of passing to stretch the opposition is fine but our approach is way too predictable just now. Going wide works if the crosses are quality and both strikers, with midfeild, look to test / overload the box, but that rarely happens.
Watching how decent Norwich were today in committing to fluid attacking movement and interplay (especially in the middle, infront of our box) it struck me how we rarely show that confidence of interplay down the centre. The issue then is a good defence (especially when not troubled with overloads or variety of systems) are hard to breakdown. Feels more like a system tactics issue to me, or perhaps that the CAM role isn't where it should be too often.
bigfatronssba
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Seems he was watching a different game!
He was comparing Tavares to Rooney and Owen. Mad as a box of frogs.
SkyBlueAndy1979
New Member
Surely it comes down to formation? And the new coaching staff that have failed to realise we can’t play 4-2-3-1 with players we have. We aren’t a team that is going to dominate possession and we are better in shorts bursts. We played great footie in that formation when we had Callum, Kasey, Hamer, etc. We now have Rudoni who isn’t as dynamic and Ellis Simms who isn’t mobile. It makes our midfield look weak but they have no chance when they are being pulled apart to cover everywhere. So the defence stays deep along with midfield making us disjointed and we get picked off by a Mediocre Norwich Team. The pressing from the front isn’t working as a result. Even with Sheaf back I don’t think this current formation will work. I hope I’m wrong or hope that MR realises that we need to put an extra man in midfield and play 4-3-3 or go ultra counter attacking 4-4-1-1. Thoughts?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The problems are pretty easy to spot. Yes, we are absolutely soft as shit. We also have zero leadership on the pitch. When your current captain plays, but we statistically pick up less points per game, at professional level that is a massive red flag. Ability standard you might say Kelly wasn't there in the last year or two, but his presence improved us drastically. Having a calm and astute head in the middle made a big difference.
The 'too many cooks' is relevant as well. We've got all these new coaches but we are still, for the most part, doing pre-cooked substitutions. How set in our ways are we?
Application and attitude seem lacking, which is a massive concern to me. If you lose but fight hard and give everything then you walk away feeling annoyed but less angry overall. For a while now we've just looked lacklustre and you have to ask why that is. Viveash has gone and I get the feeling we're missing his presence too. Who was it that said it was 'me or him' again? Pretty sure that gives an indication of how unsurprising it is that we find ourselves in this pickle.
The 'too many cooks' is relevant as well. We've got all these new coaches but we are still, for the most part, doing pre-cooked substitutions. How set in our ways are we?
Application and attitude seem lacking, which is a massive concern to me. If you lose but fight hard and give everything then you walk away feeling annoyed but less angry overall. For a while now we've just looked lacklustre and you have to ask why that is. Viveash has gone and I get the feeling we're missing his presence too. Who was it that said it was 'me or him' again? Pretty sure that gives an indication of how unsurprising it is that we find ourselves in this pickle.
The watchmaker
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There are a lot of things I find troubling and confusing about this summer. Our first choice CB pairing from last season having been entirely replaced by two players that barely got a look in last season is high amongst them.
SkyBlueAndy1979
New Member
Reading between the lines and watching the reaction from Eccles and Milan on the instructions from the coaching staff, all is not well tactically. We only have this season before we lose Sheaf, Milan, Wright, etc. Need this sorted fast.
RoboCCFC90
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I wish people would stop with this “We haven’t replaced Hamer” rhetoric it’s boring.
Yes we haven’t replaced him, one player doesn’t make a team and as good as Hamer was it’s 11 players out on the pitch and it’s a squad game. As a club Hamer’s sale (and Gyokeres) has allowed the club to invest in bringing better players that rely less on loans and having quality in depth, something that has been pointed out to of been lacking up until now.
Also, no creativity? Simms and Rudoni should’ve both scored yesterday and Wright had chances - I don’t see we aren’t creating, we can’t finish our dinner that’s a problem.
shmmeee
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Why do you think people say we haven’t replaced Hamer and don’t say we haven’t replaced Vik? Once you’ve figured that out you’ll understand.
RoboCCFC90
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Man Utd never replaced Roy Keane.
We never replaced Gary Mac.
Tottenham have not replaced Harry Kane.
You can’t always replace integral players with like for like, that’s why Clubs recruit 3 players to replace 1 specific, because that one was unique.
Can’t keep using this excuse as the reason we aren’t progressing, otherwise how far back do you want to go and should we look at more players over the years that we are yet to replace who are key - and you can throw Gyokeres into that list.
shmmeee
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Ill ask again: why do fans complain about Hamer not being replaced specifically? All your point apply to every major player we’ve ever lost. What makes Hamer different?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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But we have only recruited one in his position in Torp and so far he's been pretty poor, that's the whole point people are moaning about.
Where are the other two central midfielders we've been desperate for.
chiefdave
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I always find it odd in these discussions that people seem to assume every transfer window has gone exactly to plan.
People seem to think Robins and / or the recruitment team identify who they want and then that’s it, we sign them.
If we don’t sign a player in a particular position it’s never because a deal, or deals, fell through or because the right player wasn’t available, it’s because Robins and his team are incompetent and haven’t spotted some glaring gap in the squad a random supporter on here has seen.
People seem to think Robins and / or the recruitment team identify who they want and then that’s it, we sign them.
If we don’t sign a player in a particular position it’s never because a deal, or deals, fell through or because the right player wasn’t available, it’s because Robins and his team are incompetent and haven’t spotted some glaring gap in the squad a random supporter on here has seen.
Skyblueabo1111
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EMC played on the left for Peterborough and Asante striker for WBA