So if I am sold faulty goods are you saying that I am not allowed a refund from the retailer?
So am I right in saying that Sisu are now going to open up a car dealership?
Is that how they are going to fund the new stadium?
If you are deliberately blurring the distinction between a main contract and sub-contracts in respect of a special case that bears little relation to the one being discussed.So if I bought a Land Rover and it broke down you are saying that I should contact Land Rover and not the dealership?
They might...Wasps aren't going to go bust now or anytime in the future.
Do you really think after what we are charged in rent and matchday fees and after selling our fans the most expensive parking and F&B in the FL that IEC are failing to break even on CCFC matchdays?People cutting back loses to try and breakeven. Which has a begative effect on the matchday experience of CCFC fans?
They might go into administration but if they do I'd bet someone would buy the turkey and it would still exist in some form or another at the Ricoh.They might...
People that are arguing the retailer is responsible do realise that IEC not CCFC are the retailer here don't they?
Do you really think after what we are charged in rent and matchday fees and after selling our fans the most expensive parking and F&B in the FL that IEC are failing to break even on CCFC matchdays?
What money have they saved by doing this? They still have the staff to serve everything else, there is still the same hot food available on site. If there was a lot of wastage why not just cut the numbers accordingly?
The retailer just back to backs the manufacturers warranty. Your contract is with the retailer. Therefore it's the retailer who has the responsibility with the customer. He knows this, I know this, you know this, anyone who has bought anything ever knows this. Why he's trying to reinvent the wheel is anyone's guess.
I don't know about that either. Form is that clubs who fold end up reconstituted, and back around their original bases (see Richmond, London Welsh. Orrell are looking for a home I think, although news is a bit wishy-washy to flesh out and really, even I have better things to do today!). So I'd expect a lower level Wasps playing in London, myself (possibly asking for a leg-up from the amateur side).I'd bet someone would buy the turkey and it would still exist in some form or another at the Ricoh.
I don't think it is likely because their value is the Arena lease and the associated businesses.I don't know about that either. Form is that clubs who fold end up reconstituted, and back around their original bases (see Richmond, London Welsh. Orrell are looking for a home I think, although news is a bit wishy-washy to flesh out and really, even I have better things to do today!). So I'd expect a lower level Wasps playing in London, myself (possibly asking for a leg-up from the amateur side).
People that are arguing the retailer is responsible do realise that IEC not CCFC are the retailer here don't they?
Do you really think after what we are charged in rent and matchday fees and after selling our fans the most expensive parking and F&B in the FL that IEC are failing to break even on CCFC matchdays?
What money have they saved by doing this? They still have the staff to serve everything else, there is still the same hot food available on site. If there was a lot of wastage why not just cut the numbers accordingly?
That doesn't mean you buy it for a Rugby team though.I don't think it is likely because their value is the Arena lease and the associated businesses.
ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS!!!You do realise if you buy a car from a dealer and it breaks down the contract is with the manufacturer and not the retailer?
People that are arguing the retailer is responsible do realise that IEC not CCFC are the retailer here don't they?
Where have I said they should take a hit? In fact can you explain how they are taking a hit? They are still employing the same staff, they have the same product on sale elsewhere in the ground so are still buying that product in and preparing it. The only possible way they could take a hit is if they are preparing too many and suffering wastage. If that is the case why not just have less available in the corporate areas.If you are outraged and want to complain about this and think ACL or IEC or Compass. Should take a hit in this area so those guys can have their food fair enough.
Where in this seasons corporate offering do CCFC state that hot food will be available to purchase on the day? Its not a service that was offered by CCFC or sold by CCFC. The same as when you or I buy a match ticket it doesn't say there will be any F&B available. If IEC close all those outlets down as well would that be the clubs fault?The fact that pies aren't for sale is infringing your match day experience. That's been sold to you by the club so the correct course is you take it up with the provider of your match day experience
Where in this seasons corporate offering do CCFC state that hot food will be available to purchase on the day? Its not a service that was offered by CCFC or sold by CCFC. The same as when you or I buy a match ticket it doesn't say there will be any F&B available. If IEC close all those outlets down as well would that be the clubs fault?
CCFC hire the ground for matchdays, it is not unreasonable to expect a basic level of service is provided to attendees by IEC. And its unlikely to be itemised down to every item, hence why are matchday costs have greatly increased since Wasps takeover of ACL. Everything not specified in the tiniest detail in the contract is being taken advantage of by IEC to increase the charge to CCFC. Its not unreasonable to think this is the same. Hence CCFC saying it is out of control and Wasps offering no comment past saying they haven't breached the terms of the contract.
ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS!!!
Buying a New Car: Your Rights
You can never admit when you are wrong can you.That is essentially a load of waffle around the 30 day rule which is also in effect covered
What you need to ask yourself is this - you buy a car from Scotland and take it down to Cornwall where you live and then it develops issues.
Where do you think the customer takes the car - Scotland?
I said a few weeks ago... He'd run over his own mother, then reverse over her to make sure.You can never admit when you are wrong can you.
You'd phone them up!That is essentially a load of waffle around the 30 day rule which is also in effect covered
What you need to ask yourself is this - you buy a car from Scotland and take it down to Cornwall where you live and then it develops issues.
Where do you think the customer takes the car - Scotland?
I think piegate relations are that bad now that we are inevitably not going to be at the Ricoh for much longerAbsolutely. And if your pie is defective you complain to ACL/IEC not Pukka as Grendull is trying to spin it. The fact that pies aren't for sale is infringing your match day experience. That's been sold to you by the club so the correct course is you take it up with the provider of your match day experience (if you consider it an issue) and they then take it up with ACL/IEC. I don't think anyone has said anything other than that have they?
The club have said it's out of their hands. You can either accept that or question it. If ACL/IEC are contractually obligated to supply hot food options on CCFC match days the club need to come out and say that. If they're not it is a free market economy and you would then be correct to pursue it with ACL/IEC as clearly it is their decision to stop selling food on CCFC match days.
I've heard the new stadium will indeed by known as the Piegate Arena.I think piegate relations are that bad now that we are inevitably not going to be at the Ricoh for much longer
You'd phone them up!
That is essentially a load of waffle around the 30 day rule which is also in effect covered
What you need to ask yourself is this - you buy a car from Scotland and take it down to Cornwall where you live and then it develops issues.
Where do you think the customer takes the car - Scotland?
Would you bollocks -you'd go to the local retailer who'd then deal with the issue in consultation with the manufacturer.
So if it's a Toyota and made in Japan would you take it back to Japan? I only ask because a few years ago I had a Vauxhall that was still under manufacturers warranty when it had a call back and I followed the advice from the manufacturer and took it to my local Vauxhall dealership to have a modification done under warranty at no cost to myself. Was that wrong? Should I have driven it to Luton and demanded that Vauxhall did it personally like you suggest? I just want to know as currently I have a Mitsubishi and I don't want to make a fool of myself by taking it to the dealer in Coventry when I should be having it shipped back to Japan under your advice.
No Tony you contact the retailer who oddly liaises with the NSC in the uk. The NSC in the uk will have a customer service department who allocated you a case number and then the case is dealt with.
My sympathies.as currently I have a Mitsubishi
You can never admit when you are wrong can you.
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