Grendel
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Strange Michael Orton hasn't given a statement - perhaps there never was "another" phone number.
@Nick
Did ML ever get back to you with permission to post his email to you?
Did he ever say what the few things he wanted to clear up on the phone call were?
Have you spoken to ML since he was provided with a phone number and contact from the KCIC consortium?
Do you know if he has called and spoken to someone now?
All of a sudden everything has gone quiet. Strange considering how noisy it was.
Strange Michael Orton hasn't given a statement - perhaps there never was "another" phone number.
Not been about as been busy with moving jobs etc so not really had chance to look or do much.
From what I gather he has spoken to the other person but they were a middle man for the middle man so knew nothing about the offer or the situation (which you can't really expect them to)
I think he wants to generally get an idea of the offer and a bit more detail.
I think it's on hold for the weekend (which may help the situation with time away from it).
If people want to chat to ml he will probably speak to them direct anyway!
Have KCIC ever met up with Joy/Tim?
I know they've protested a lot but I can't remember any reports of meetings.
Anyone know?
Would it have been to much trouble to have invited them in for a cuppa when they were stood outside their Mayfair offices
I believe Michael had a seat and a drink waiting one time!
A middle man for a middle
man? Feck me if that's true what absolute jokers.
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Fair play if they did.
KCIC said:Fans from the Keep Cov in Cov campaign group have previously invited Seppala to join them for a pint at a neighbouring pub and this time will be setting up a table and chairs to offer a rather more genteel ‘Mayfair Afternoon Tea’ including a chair reserved for the SISU boss.
All too familiar a proposal is dashed by the behaviour of individuals, protocols and excuses.........
We never get to the stage can this offer work
The takeover where Mr Dulieu said SISU will accept this. He was asked to keep it secret. Next day day it's in the Sun.
The rent offer from ACL, can't be considered because it was made to the Football League.
This offer one party it must be by telephone the other party it must be face to face.
Who does it suit not really to do a deal and ask yourself why.
We are all mugs,
All parties have faults but some more than others.
Just wish one would pick up the phone.
Does that mean ML hasn't put the call into the contact number he's been given?
Have ACL acted an offer with kcic? There is no offer don - they are making mugs of you.
If the offer was delivered in letter headed paper, on a memory stick, on telephone call. Via teleconference, in person or delivered personally by Micky Gynn. If it helps ACL keep breathing in any way or form there would be an issue with it.
If SISU were genuinely interested in doing the right thing and returning to the Ricoh on the short term in any guise they would be going all out to make it happen, what have they done to achieve this........
Tomorrow is signify the end for sisu anyway. They won't be able to get the Ricoh ever after all that's gone on.
Appeal all you want (if they can) and throw anything at ccc they will never sell to sisu. End of.
Have you had a sneak peek at the judges ruling?
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If the offer was delivered in letter headed paper, on a memory stick, on telephone call. Via teleconference, in person or delivered personally by Micky Gynn. If it helps ACL keep breathing in any way or form there would be an issue with it.
If SISU were genuinely interested in doing the right thing and returning to the Ricoh on the short term in any guise they would be going all out to make it happen, what have they done to achieve this........
Thing is though stupot. It doesn't matter what the judge rules. He isn't going to give sisu a slice of the Ricoh so ccc will make sure they never do. ML gave the game away didn't he. "This has no effect on bringing Coventry home" that's what he said. He is right. Judge rules ccc and we all carry on and is sisu win then so what. Won't be able to claim damages as the judge says they stopped paying legal rent and they won't get the Ricoh and ccc will make sure of it. They don't have to give them anything regardless and with the history they never will.
Sisu can't win in this. They are better of selling and leaving us to pick up the pieces. Look at the upcoming season. No signings, no hope, no home. Relegation is nigh on certain. It can't get any worse.
No, this judge will just judge whether the loan was an unlawful use of state aid and whether ACL have to pay it back and go out to the open market. He will also decide whether there should be another hearing for damages. They were never going to get the Ricoh as part of the damages anyway.
However this doesn't mean that sisu will go, Monday afternoon. Who's going to buy it? KCIC for £51k? Even back at the Ricoh how are KCIC going to fund £5-6m+ per annum losses, plus invest in the team?
It can get worse, we could get liquidated (properly) and expelled out of the league having to start back down in the 8th,9th or 10th tier.
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If the net result of the JR was ACL went to the wall meaning that the lease would revert back to CCC. What would stop CCC and Higgs setting up another management company together and CCC issuing the new Co with a fresh lease for a nominal fee?
If the net result of the JR was ACL went to the wall meaning that the lease would revert back to CCC. What would stop CCC and Higgs setting up another management company together and CCC issuing the new Co with a fresh lease for a nominal fee?
It is a long way before anything terminal can happen to ACL because there is significant inertia to overcome (ie reports & recommendations to be made by senior council officers followed by a full council meeting to approve a course of action). CCFC however is fully at the mercy of Joy (& her investors), I'm sure they can move a lot quicker if they feel they have to.
Anyway, we don't know..yet.. but Monday will be interesting whatever the outcome.
Again, I repeat the suggestion that half the problems result from two different cultures, one of which moves swiftly on the word of one person... one of who has to get things signed off by the world and Anne Lucas's dog before it can do anything... so in that respect yeah, it wouldn't surprise me is even if it were ever decided that ACL should be wound up, it'd take about four years to actually do it
Again, I repeat the suggestion that half the problems result from two different cultures, one of which moves swiftly on the word of one person... one of who has to get things signed off by the world and Anne Lucas's dog before it can do anything... so in that respect yeah, it wouldn't surprise me is even if it were ever decided that ACL should be wound up, it'd take about four years to actually do it
So that will be a bit quicker then getting our new ground some where in Grendelville. (outside of the Coventry Council jurisdiction)
Very possibly...
But I wouldn't be banking on a swift long term resolution even if the will is there... just because I'm not sure the procedures are in place to *allow* for a swift resolution!
No. Not Joy at least. If by KCIC you meant Mr Orton. I think he is the locus of the organisation as it were.Have KCIC ever met up with Joy/Tim?
I know they've protested a lot but I can't remember any reports of meetings.
Anyone know?
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