When in reality something else was happening?
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Evo1883
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Probably not wingy , just tired after a long season .. they played over 50 matches
Chris1987
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How long should he get then ?
I asked the same question yesterday to which you didn't answer. Put a timespan on it .
skybluecam
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I’m just not sure Robins has what it takes to build the team we need tbh
We’ve actually been a bit unlucky this season I think, should probably have a few more points. But the bigger concern for me is that there doesn’t seem to be a consistent idea tactically, the teams looks all over the place at times and some of the changes being made feel a bit random.
Evo1883
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I don't agree with you on Robins
Evo1883
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He gets until atleast Christmas as I've stated 3 times now mate
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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sorry, you’ve added another criteria that wasn’t part of my statement so even when I say he wasn’t great at Barnsley Huddersfield or Scunthorpe you’ll try and point to the strength or otherwise of the squad…
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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and then scupper any replacement’s chance of doing anything worthwhile in the January transfer window?
Otis
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I think he does know his best 11.
Trouble is, so many of them keep coming in and underperforming.
I know many make the point of Robins constantly chopping and changing the side, but on many, many occasions, we have had to change things because of players underperforming.
I'm sure an on form Rudoni would be in every game, but he keeps disappearing in games and fading badly.
So many frustrating performances from too many players so far. It's mind-boggling.
We have a fabulous Wright and an inept Wright. Which one turns up to games, no-one knows.
As a matter of interest, which players would everyone say are putting in consistent decent performances, week in, week out?
Nick
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I think he does know his best 11.
Trouble is, so many of them keep coming in and underperforming.
I know many make the point of Robins constantly chopping and changing the side, but on many, many occasions, we have had to change things because of players underperforming.
I'm sure an on form Rudoni would be in every game, but he keeps disappearing in games and fading badly.
So many frustrating performances from too many players so far. It's mind-boggling.
We have a fabulous Wright and an inlet Wright. Which one turns up to games, no-one knows.
As a matter of interest, which players would everyone say are putting in consistent decent performances, week in, week out?
Rudoni isn't a number 10.
Otis
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Yeah and though those ARE the facts, we all know that we were left with nothing to play for late on in the season and had been pushed out the promotion race.
At that point there was very little to play for. That can make a hell of a difference.
Otis
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Exactly. They really were.
Boicey
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The whole point is you have to keep picking the same 11, even if some need time. Trust your judgement and give them 5 or 6 games.I think he does know his best 11.
Trouble is, so many of them keep coming in and underperforming.
I know many make the point of Robins constantly chopping and changing the side, but on many, many occasions, we have had to change things because of players underperforming.
I'm sure an on form Rudoni would be in every game, but he keeps disappearing in games and fading badly.
So many frustrating performances from too many players so far. It's mind-boggling.
We have a fabulous Wright and an inept Wright. Which one turns up to games, no-one knows.
As a matter of interest, which players would everyone say are putting in consistent decent performances, week in, week out?
Use the rest of the squad for subs and to cover injuries.
The trouble is now he is under real pressure and more likely to flap about.
Evo1883
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So you wouldnt accept the reasons as to why he did as he did , you just want to push league position and win ratio ? Then sure , Robins didn't do well .. the same way robins did shit our first season back in the championship
Evo1883
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Robins gets until Christmas
ho ho ho
Ring Of Steel
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I don’t get why all the stats last season are now such a burning issue.
All the terrible form last season was not an issue pre-season, when everyone was high with expectation, last season didn’t matter one bit, as everyone understood the reasons. Now all of a sudden last season is really important and another reason why “times up”
All the terrible form last season was not an issue pre-season, when everyone was high with expectation, last season didn’t matter one bit, as everyone understood the reasons. Now all of a sudden last season is really important and another reason why “times up”
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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I’ll accept reasoned arguments, sure
but the clubs I mentioned (other than maybe Scunthorpe) he had time and it was more towards the end where he struggled, not where he hadn’t had the time to build his own team
the first season back in the championship was always going to be a season of consolidation and rebuilding, and I think that was accepted - having said that I also wouldn’t say he was shit first season back by any stretch.
I also never mentioned win ratio or league position, but ultimately they are probably two of the main indicators of success or struggle, wouldn’t you agree?
fernandopartridge
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I disagree with you, he's built more than one team here and it's worked best when he's been pragmatic. It feels like the recruitment at the moment is too heavily weighted on potential sell on fees to the detriment of team building.
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Evo1883
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Rotherham - overcame a -17 points deduction and achieved the equivalent of 75 points in the season
Barnsley - kept them up after being bottom when he took over , had them 9 points clear of relegation by the Christmas.. left after a disagreement with the board , Barnsley proceeded to finish the following 3 seasons in worse positions and got relegated back to league 1
Huddersfield - kept them up last day after taking over on 13th February 2013 with them level on points with 23rd place
Finished 16th the following season and left .
They finished 19th the season after
Scunthorpe - you could say he didn't do well
Coventry - 2 promotions
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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I think last season would’ve been forgotten if results had been different - they aren’t a burning issue, just a continuation of the poor form into this season, which has highlighted them further
in terms of form they are completely significant, like I say if we had come out of the blocks this season it wouldn’t have really mattered too much
expectation played a part too at the start of the season, but now make no bones about it we are in the relegation mix and, currently, deep in trouble
Evo1883
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Nobody is deep in trouble after 10 games , there are 108 points to play for , it's sensationalist nonsense
Diogenes
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Because usually the way you end a season doesn't always indicate how you will start the next one unless there's a deep lying problem at the club.
The end of last season was a shit show, but it was accepted as Robins and many others told us that we had such a tiny squad that couldn't compete and that at the time seemed to make sense. Looking back, that assumption clearly papered over the cracks.
Evo1883
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The team had nothing to play for after hull which was 1 game after the fa cup semi final .
It's just total coincidence
Nick
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is it a coincidence though? Same issues every week with no idea how to resolve them.
Evo1883
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Ofcourse it's a coincidence after man utd semi final we played Ipswich and Southampton both went up automatically , we played hull who finished 7th and we played qpr last game who won 5 of their last 8 .
We played mostly good teams in form when we had completely ran out of steam with nothing to play for , we had a bad result at birmingham sure
Nick
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So why are pretty much mostly the same players still playing like they have nothing to play for?
What's the excuse?
Otis
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I don't think you do keep picking the same 11 if they aren't putting in the required level of performance.
If someone isn't putting the right amount of effort, it's right and propper to use the option of relegating them to the bench.
Sky Blue Pete
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Course but that’s cause we’re Coventry and it’s robins
Diogenes
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So they lost 6/8 because they couldnt be bothered playing because there was "nothing to play for"?
Real winners have pride and want to win every game regardless. If that is what happened at the end of last season then it's a disgrace and I don't want players with that mindset regardless of whether there's something to play for or not.
Do you think that attitude is acceptable?
Evo1883
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They aren't playing like that at all , you're saying they are .
Evo1883
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Listen mate , at the time last season I was raging with the fact that professional sports players couldn't play 9 games in 32 days including extra time at Wembley to finish the season in style .
Real world we didn't have the squad
Nick
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So what's the excuse?
The players look very much like they have nothing to play for. Half hearted performances.
The results very much say they are playing the same as they did after April.
Evo1883
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On Saturday we were robbed of a result by the officials... fact , we played relatively well and did more than enough
Otis
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Maybe there is something in what Saddle was saying, which was that some of the current crop were not happy about the newer signings and the wages they were on.
Hard to know for sure, but some aren't busting a gut are they. I don't see how you can blame Robins for that. Unless of course they don't want to play for Robins.
I would find that rather odd though.
Nick
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More than enough for a draw against a poor team with players out. What about the rest of them?