skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I think he’s covered everything
Would anybody really be surprised if he leaves a dirty protest in the presidential bed?Into your last 24 hours Donald. Try and leave the house clean for the new tenants. A loaf of bread and a pint of milk in the fridge might be a nice gesture.
He does do a good rantI think he’s covered everything
The pardon system is all very bizarre. Lots of people pointing out he's not the only president to exploit it, but it's not overly democratic!Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?
Maybe this is what he meant by draining the swamp. The swamp being prisons full of his crook mates.Pardoned Bannon for fleecing his own supporters!
Does that mean Bannons codefendants are now looked on as guilty even though the trial hasn't taken place yet?
Sure he'll pop up again and again!It will be so sad him leaving the White House. Can we still keep the thread going after today?
Are people overstating Trump's sway with the electorate, anyway? Biden comfortably won the presidency, but Democrats did worse than expected in Senate and Congress elections. Would a more moderate Republicanism have won them the presidency this time?Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or notMakes it easy for Senators to turn on him now
Not even sure it's about more moderate Republicanism. Local/State Republican parties still putting up election candidates that are to the right wing of Republican politics.Are people overstating Trump's sway with the electorate, anyway? Biden comfortably won the presidency, but Democrats did worse than expected in Senate and Congress elections. Would a more moderate Republicanism have won them the presidency this time?
One thing's for sure, moderate Republicans may as well convict him, now, if he wants to shaft their party, anyway.
Entirely plausible Trump supporters could switch allegiance to a candidate with a similar agenda who just expresses it in a more "considered" way.
Isn't that a worse case scenario for the Republicans? He could potentially take a decent chunk of their vote but it will have zero impact on Democat voters.Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or notMakes it easy for Senators to turn on him now
Is there genuine longevity in a 3rd party based on an individual? What is it actually going to be offering that is so different from current Republicanism?Isn't that a worse case scenario for the Republicans? He could potentially take a decent chunk of their vote but it will have zero impact on Democat voters.
The pardon system is all very bizarre. Lots of people pointing out he's not the only president to exploit it, but it's not overly democratic!
Seems only Carter pardoning Vietnam draft avoiders is the only one in recent history who's used it half appropriately.
West Virginia could have a lot of money thrown at it for the next 2 years
Joe Manchin is a Republican anyway he may as well formally switch
no he's not
A lot of his politics is old skool union based democrat pro worker. He is socially conservative like most of the people he represents.
Until 2022 when the dems have a chance at flipping Republicans out of seats in WN and PA and attacking Fletc they need him on side.
He’s a conservative in basically every respect and takes corporate money quite happily. He argues against healthcare for his own constituents
Ok, this is the US version of saying everyone who didn't back Corbyn was a tory.
Manchin is democrat
Dude he voted with Trump over half of the time during his term. If he voted with the Republicans over half the time and supported the likes of Brett Kavanaugh he may as well switch sides. He’s just recently come out opposing extra relief cheques which people in his state need.
He’s the Liz Kendall of the Democrats
Trump in talks to set up new "Patriot" party. Smart move releasing this before Senate decides whether he's guilty or notMakes it easy for Senators to turn on him now
He called for my targeted relief over giving everyone no matter needs a cheque.
That is very different to "opposing extra relief cheques"
He said they don’t need to give more cheques to those who already had them. Dude is an all round conservative
Third Stimulus Check Likely With Manchin Wanting to 'Get More Money Out'
If Manchin votes for a third check and no other Senate Democrats break, the party won't need any Republican support to pass the measure.www.newsweek.com
As I said his position is relief should be targeted those who need it which is very different to what you are saying
That argument is similar to those who try to oppose free tuition, and it just obstructs aid getting to people faster. If someone voted with the Tories over half the time you’d probably expect them to be a Tory MP, right? Manchin voting with Trump that often means that the D next to his name is largely irrelevant
I agree (I think I heard that CNN and Fox didn't even play his final speech, just reported on it). MSM can now cheerfully ignore him and his cult followers will slowly drift away. I don't think there's any chance of him standing again.It won’t happen. The Republicans are moving on, and the MAGA crowd will find another candidate to rally behind. Trump has a long history of suggesting he’ll run under this party or that party’s banner, but it’s a long, long time between now and the primary season. He’s tired, isolated, and his pre-presidency business model has been completely scrambled. And without any currency in mainstream media, or even much oxygen on social media (always his two most valuable assets), he’s likely done politically. Time to slink off to to Russia/UAE/Eastern Europe and make some money putting his name on tower blocks instead.
From the witness box?"See you all again very soon"
"See you all again very soon"
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