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[robbiekeane]

Well why don't we just go all out and only allow people to vote between the.ages of 18 and 35 and who only have a degree ?

to be honest evo mate i think what annoys me is not that people aren’t smart enough of educated enough to question whether or not the information they are being fed is true. That’s not fair, education levels are highly correlated with parents income etc.

What annoys me is that it doesn’t matter if they think it’s true or not…they WANT it to be true because it justifies them voting a certain way that’s actually based on something entirely different…unfortunately that’s often emotion and hatred of other different groups in society.

Someone in my family got an irish passport recently. I asked why. They said because it’s going to be so hard to travel and live in europe now. I said didn’t you vote for fucking brexit? They said yes but the politicians lied to me i didn’t know it’d be like this. Of course they were fucking lying they’re politicians but you didn’t care

 

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[Ian1779]

I do agree with this but for the fact that Trump has already had his chance to do that and didn’t change anything for the better. His big plan on healthcare was to boot tens of millions of Americans off their insurance. John McCain stopped that last time, nobody can stop it this time.

That alone is going to hurt a lot of people.

This is totally true - but Biden was supposed to be the ‘cure’ to this. And he just tinkered around the edges.

Meanwhile everyone forgot how he did nothing last time.

 

[Evo1883]

I’m not sure how that follows or what you are getting at

Because people seem to be very unhappy with people that don't have college degree and the way they vote

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I am struggling to understand how this has happened given how poorly Trump has campaigned. Maybe a Democrat was just not going to win given how people perceived the economy versus the reality, maybe it was just too late for Biden to drop out when he did, I don’t know.

But with far right lunatics now in charge of the Supreme Court, White House, Senate, and probably House, the US is going to hell in a hand basket, and with that so is the West.

He didn’t campaign poorly at all. His and JD Vance’s interviews on multiple podcasts were received really well. Whereas Harris ducked long form interviews and her interviews were poor. For example, the whole ‘60 Minutes’ scandal where the broadcaster edited Harris’ answer to make her look more competent. One CNN panel said of her town hall appearance that ‘she lost in a 1 person debate’, coming from her own side, that would’ve burned.

Harris outspent Trump 3 to 1 and is on course to get roundly beat.

 

[robbiekeane]

Hey I'm happy for you all to punch me about on the politics thread , just so long you don't start crying when you start getting demolished on the football forum when you make a really silly point ... cheers

for what it’s worth i’m sorry mate. i thought you were just being a dick but now it seems like they were genuine questions. i was too angry to see that and assumed the worst of you

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Kamala Harris’ big problem is that she is a part of the current administration and with over 70% of voters (exit polls) saying the country is moving in the ‘wrong direction’ spelled big trouble.

I also think she tried to have her cake and eat it and it backfired massively. On one hand, she’s on record as saying she’d ‘have changed nothing about the last 4 years’ but also sought to present herself as a ‘change candidate’ i.e. ‘my presidency will not be a continuation of Biden’s administration’. On Biden, Harris being unable to give a straight answer to the question of ‘when she knew Biden was deteriorating’ summed up her up. Whichever answer she gave answer was bad because she either lied to the public about Biden’s mental faculties or worst, genuinely could not tell he was deteriorating.

I can reiterate what I said at the start of the night, Kamala Harris is a historically bad presidential candidate and the Democrats should rue that they didn’t have a primary.

From a political strategy POV, Trump’s gamble to go over low propensity voters has paid off off massively.

I agree

 

[Evo1883]

for what it’s worth i’m sorry mate. i thought you were just being a dick but now it seems like they were genuine questions. i was too angry to see that and assumed the worst of you

I wouldn't vote trump for what it's worth , I just get annoyed with the idea that it's all because of thick people , and maybe because they are my people that I get so bothered by it

 

[djr8369]

Because people seem to be very unhappy with people that don't have college degree and the way they vote

Are they? You showed one example? Again it just comes across as insecurity.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He didn’t campaign poorly at all. His and JD Vance’s interviews on multiple podcasts were received really well. Whereas Harris ducked long form interviews and her interviews were poor. For example, the whole ‘60 Minutes’ scandal where the broadcaster edited Harris’ answer to make her look more competent. One CNN panel said of her town hall appearance that ‘she lost in a 1 person debate’, coming from her own side, that would’ve burned.

Harris outspent Trump 3 to 1 and is on course to get roundly beat.

JD Vance was the most unpopular VP pick in the history of polling on the subject and Trump himself has a huge ‘unfavourable’ rating.

 

[Evo1883]

Are they? You showed one example? Again it just comes across as insecurity.

Why would I be insecure ? I'm thick as fuck .

But that's not for you to tell me I am

That's my point

 

[djr8369]

I wouldn't vote trump for what it's worth , I just get annoyed with the idea that it's all because of thick people , and maybe because they are my people that I get so bothered by it

It’s hard for people to understand their motivation especially when it’s against their own interest, seems based on spite and insecurity, and their arguments are incoherent. I mean what do you expect people to say?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Hey I'm happy for you all to punch me about on the politics thread , just so long you don't start crying when you start getting demolished on the football forum when you make a really silly point ... cheers

No argument there, one of the top 3 football posters for me

 

[djr8369]

Why would I be insecure ? I'm thick as fuck .

But that's not for you to tell me I am

That's my point

There’s no way to respond to you because any questioning of your thought line or motivation is turned into you being called thick

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What a depressing world we live in
I hope we see some of the shit enacted so we can step back from full on reform nationalism but I doubt it

 

[Evo1883]

It’s hard for people to understand their motivation especially when it’s against their own interest, seems based on spite and insecurity, and their arguments are incoherent. I mean what do you expect people to say?

I expect people to just be a bit more respectful and question why people would vote this way , rather than it being simply because they are thick .

Il have you know that when I was in the army a soldier would always rather follow the 20 year uneducated sergeant into battle than the university degree officer

Most of the time clever people have absolutely zero common sense from experience not to label

 

[Evo1883]

No argument there, one of the top 3 football posters for me

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I expect people to just be a bit more respectful and question why people would vote this way , rather than it being simply because they are thick .

Il have you know that when I was in the army a soldier would always rather follow the 20 year uneducated sergeant into battle than the university degree officer

Most of the time clever people have absolutely zero common sense from experience not to label

There is the other side to this though when you can see the negative consequences of voting for a certain person or party from a mile off, people vote for it, the bad things happen and the guy gets re-elected anyway.

Can you see how that’s frustrating?

 

[Sick Boy]

Kennedy, Jr in charge of the country's health is actually insane.

 

[stupot07]

What a depressing world we live in
I hope we see some of the shit enacted so we can step back from full on reform nationalism but I doubt it

His to do list

1) give himself a pardon
2) persecute any official that was part of those charges
3) give the rich more tax cuts
4) try to change the constitution so that you can have more than 2 terms.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Kennedy, Jr in charge of the country's health is actually insane.

Musk in charge of filling the civil service with Trump supporters

 

[Evo1883]

There is the other side to this though when you can see the negative consequences of voting for a certain person or party from a mile off, people vote for it, the bad things happen and the guy gets re-elected anyway.

Can you see how that’s frustrating?

I can see how people are frustrated with the result yes , I voted Labour and the tories kept winning .

 

[djr8369]

I expect people to just be a bit more respectful and question why people would vote this way , rather than it being simply because they are thick .

Il have you know that when I was in the army a soldier would always rather follow the 20 year uneducated sergeant into battle than the university degree officer

Most of the time clever people have absolutely zero common sense from experience not to label

But people are asking fair questions and your response is largely just about being called thick. Who has called anyone thick?

Yeah I was in the army too and get the arguments about common sense where I work now but to be honest in my view it’s largely nonsense. Like people have that view then only remember the examples that suit it and it entrenches further but then they miss the wider context.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

If ever there's a time to step back from social media and the news for say 4-5 years, then maybe it's now?!

 

[torchomatic]

His to do list

1) give himself a pardon
2) persecute any official that was part of those charges
3) give the rich more tax cuts
4) try to change the constitution so that you can have more than 2 terms.

A dictator in all but name.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can see how people are frustrated with the result yes , I voted Labour and the tories kept winning .

All people have said really is that you have loads voting for this guy who will make them worse off. And the proof for that has been given so

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

JD Vance was the most unpopular VP pick in the history of polling on the subject and Trump himself has a huge ‘unfavourable’ rating.

In the history of polling… tonight proved just how wrong the polls were, again.

On Trump’s favourability, his ‘retrospective’ approval rating went up to 48% which surpassed Biden’s approval rating of 41%. Again, it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that Trump won tonight.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In the history of polling… tonight proved just how wrong the polls were, again.

On Trump’s favourability, his ‘retrospective’ approval rating went up to 48% which surpassed Biden’s approval rating of 41%. Again, it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that Trump won tonight.

The polls were actually bang on. My mistake was thinking they weren’t

 

[djr8369]

I expect people to just be a bit more respectful and question why people would vote this way , rather than it being simply because they are thick .

Il have you know that when I was in the army a soldier would always rather follow the 20 year uneducated sergeant into battle than the university degree officer

Most of the time clever people have absolutely zero common sense from experience not to label

Just to add do you see there’s a certain hypocrisy to the fact you feel everyone thinks you’re stupid and talks down to you yet label clever people as bumbling junior offices with no common sense?

It’s this kind of division that is exploited by politicians.

 

[Evo1883]

But people are asking fair questions and your response is largely just about being called thick. Who has called anyone thick?

Yeah I was in the army too and get the arguments about common sense where I work now but to be honest in my view it’s largely nonsense. Like people have that view then only remember the examples that suit it and it entrenches further but then they miss the wider context.

Ok il clarify , a person's education and how well they did at school is not the reason Donald trump won the election

 

[Sick Boy]

It goes to show that the elite like Trump can get away with stuff that would land most of us in prison.

 

[Evo1883]

Just to add do you see there’s a certain hypocrisy to the fact you feel everyone thinks you’re stupid and talks down to you yet label clever people as bumbling junior offices with no common sense?

It’s this kind of division that is exploited by politicians.

I mean , that's what I've been saying all along that it fuels anger and resentment but because I said something about an educated officer you now realise that?

Mental

 

[Evo1883]

People Never learn , it's such a shame that media and contributers continue to spew this sort of stuff

@djr8369 this is what started me off

 

[djr8369]

I mean , that's what I've been saying all along that it fuels anger and resentment but because I said something about an educated officer you now realise that?

Mental

We’re going full circle. My original posts were that the anger and resentment is already there before voting and before anyone is called thick (which is largely imagined). It seems to be a chicken and egg thing. Your answers are constantly about being called thick (no one here has called you thick, only asked you to back up your points). I then said it all comes across as insecurity and am told that’s exactly the kind of talking down you hate but it was in response to your actions.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

@djr8369 this is what started me off

Looks like Gen Z broke for Harris, millennials and boomers were tied and Gen X went heavy for Trump. Never seen an age trend like that before

 

[djr8369]

@djr8369 this is what started me off

Yes I know. I just don’t get it though it doesn’t upset me and seems basically true as his base is based on that demographic. Yes it’s a bit condescending but then Trump condescends and dehumanises everyone in worse ways.