Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (25 Viewers)

[robbiekeane]

I did have a 4 which fell of the post which was we need to learn to talk to the other side. Yeah absolutely but people have been trying to have evidenced based discussions all morning and constantly told it’s sneering and talking down to people. It’s really hard to have a conversation if you can’t establish basic facts and use them.

Exactly. There’s such a massive part of “the other side” that don’t want to hear any empirical evidence or facts at all that cast into doubt the motivating points behind their positions.

And it’s like whack a mole…when you or the less extreme party’s representatives engage in conversation about a specific issue and try to have evidence based conversations, Trump is already talking about Haitians eating dogs or Boris is talking about £350million a week to the EU.

Are either of them true? No not at all. Does that matter? Not at all, because those voters don’t want facts they want soundbites to support their narrative which honestly today is just usually “i don’t want people that don’t look like me here”.

 

---

[Ccfcisparks]

Tax the mega rich and there’s less jobs from those business’ it’s not as cut and dry as that

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exactly. There’s such a massive part of “the other side” that don’t want to hear any empirical evidence or facts at all that cast into doubt the motivating points behind their positions.

And it’s like whack a mole…when you or the less extreme party’s representatives engage in conversation about a specific issue and try to have evidence based conversations, Trump is already talking about Haitians eating dogs or Boris is talking about £350million a week to the EU.

Are either of them true? No not at all. Does that matter? Not at all, because those voters don’t want facts they want soundbites to support their narrative which honestly today is just usually “i don’t want people that don’t look like me here”.

This year’s soundbite was ‘Trump will fix it’. Let’s see

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tax the mega rich and there’s less jobs from those business’ it’s not as cut and dry as that

You speak as though Reagan, Bush Jr and Trump haven’t all passed mega tax cuts for the rich. We know already what happens as a result.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

When exactly was America great ? What period in time?
Imagine if we had a party campaigning along the lines of make Britain great again…at least I would roughly guess that meant from about 1750 to 1945 ish
( And even then , it wasn't that great for the majority of the population)

America is/was the biggest and most powerful empire the world has ever seen, just achieved in a different way. Very good book by Niall Ferguson on that very subject.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Just waking up here in SW Florida.
Clear lesson is ignore the electorate's concerns about immigration at your peril.
Massive shift to Trump by African American and Latino men was pivotal.
15m illegals coming into the country, driving down wages and taking their jobs was the reason.
Trump recognised it. Dems thought they could ignore it.

Shame those people didn't notice that Trump's plan to sort it is to deport them.

I guess they also forget that Trump thinks they're all criminals and rapists.

 

[Evo1883]

Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts

Most of it’s performative I think. That said, Trump is the master of crying on social media when he doesn’t get what he wants.

 

[Evo1883]

Most of it’s performative I think. That said, Trump is the master of crying on social media when he doesn’t get what he wants.

Yes sure but to actually set your camera up to film yourself crying is fucking mental behaviour

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes sure but to actually set your camera up to film yourself crying is fucking mental behaviour

All part of an act to get people to watch it and the more OTT it is the more clicks it gets. I mean this is a time where some people get millions of pounds for stuffing their faces on camera.

I was doing that for years without the camera FFS

 

[Como]

 

[Ashdown]

Yes sure but to actually set your camera up to film yourself crying is fucking mental behaviour

I might try that if we fucking lose to Derby later

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I might try that if we fucking lose to Derby later

I’m sure some Cov YouTuber will do that for his 3 viewers

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Shame those people didn't notice that Trump's plan to sort it is to deport them.

I guess they also forget that Trump thinks they're all criminals and rapists.

You think illegal immigrants should vote?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Exactly. There’s such a massive part of “the other side” that don’t want to hear any empirical evidence or facts at all that cast into doubt the motivating points behind their positions.

And it’s like whack a mole…when you or the less extreme party’s representatives engage in conversation about a specific issue and try to have evidence based conversations, Trump is already talking about Haitians eating dogs or Boris is talking about £350million a week to the EU.

Are either of them true? No not at all. Does that matter? Not at all, because those voters don’t want facts they want soundbites to support their narrative which honestly today is just usually “i don’t want people that don’t look like me here”.

I work in an area that's quite deprived and the locals tend to be less educated, poorer people.

Election time I heard a lot of people say how the problem was getting rid of Boris, and how Farage should get in as he'd sort it all out. Not really had that many mention the US but those that have tend to prefer Trump. They can't debate why they'd be good other than the usual sorting out immigrants stuff. They fall hook, line and sinker for the 'immigrants take all the housing, get loads of benefits and take the jobs for less wages'. It's what they want to hear so if someone says it they agree with them without any need for evidence.

One person was talking about Farage and how he'd stop the immigrants etc. and I asked if they'd actually read his manifesto, which clearly stated health and social care immigration was exempt from his proposed restrictions and so immigration would still be huge if he got in. I also pointed out how in fact there was a far bigger section on reducing benefits cos people are only on benefits cos their lazy and workshy, which would have had a massive effect on that person's family finances and it was just dismissed immediately. I tried to have a reasonable discussion with actual evidence and they had absolutely no intention of listening to it whatsoever because it didn't fit in with what they wanted to believe. And that's why I'm annoyed at those that say 'you don't listen to these people's concerns". We do, but they have no desire whatsoever to listen to the response.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You think illegal immigrants should vote?

His plan sounds like illegals would just be the start.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I’ve seen it described as a shock in quite a few places. Is anyone a surprised? I was fully expecting him to win.

I've said he was going to win since he got the nomination.

A bit shocked at how seemingly some groups such as women and minorities seemed to have voted for Trump more this time, but not shocked he won overall.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You think illegal immigrants should vote?

He wants to deport the Haitian immigrants in Ohio who are there legally, for a start.

 

[Sick Boy]

He wants to deport the Haitian immigrants in Ohio who are there legally, for a start.

Won't you think of the cats and dogs??

 

[jordan210]

This is a pretty good watch.

 

[SBAndy]

I’m sure that gifting huge tax cuts to already rich people will solve that.

Strange isn’t it, how higher taxes mean fewer jobs and lower pay rises, but lower taxes don’t really result in more jobs and massive pay rises.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Strange isn’t it, how higher taxes mean fewer jobs and lower pay rises, but lower taxes don’t really result in more jobs and massive pay rises.

And how tax cuts for the rich and businesses never directly lead to more jobs and higher wages, despite that always being the argument.

 

[robbiekeane]

And how tax cuts for the rich and businesses never directly lead to more jobs and higher wages, despite that always being the argument.

its like trickle down economics doesnt work

 

[Nick]

Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts

Saw an MP I think from London saying look after your neighbours.

 

[Grendel]

Trump looks like smashing the popular vote

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I bet this guy is feeling like a silly sausage today.

 

[Grendel]

Saw an MP I think from London saying look after your neighbours.

It’s Dawn Butler who thinks Kemi Badenoch is a White Supremacist.

She really is a cretin.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

L

Won't you think of the cats and dogs??

They’ve already been eaten

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This is a pretty good watch.

The thing is, ‘Tampon Tim’ and ‘Kackling Kamala’ did spend most of their rallies and interviews trying to address these issues and had policies to address them too.

How many unions endorsed Trump?

 

[Grendel]

Sadiq is not very sportsmanlike

Labour split on Trump’s return as Sadiq Khan refuses to congratulate president-elect

The prime minister said the two leaders ‘stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of our shared values’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

The thing is, ‘Tampon Tim’ and ‘Kackling Kamala’ did spend most of their rallies and interviews trying to address these issues and had policies to address them too.

How many unions endorsed Trump?

Unions will always side with a left leaning party. Often it shows how out of touch they are with their members

 

[djr8369]

I bet this guy is feeling like a silly sausage today.

I thought we weren’t supposed to sneer at people?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Unions will always side with a left leaning party. Often it shows how out of touch they are with their members

Trump is about as anti union as possible. Not very worker friendly of him is it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I bet this guy is feeling like a silly sausage today.

Can’t believe the dems decided not to cheat this time

 

[It’sabatch87]

Has anyone seen Biden or harris?
Gone fishing!!!