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Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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Tax the mega rich and there’s less jobs from those business’ it’s not as cut and dry as that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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robbiekeane said:
Exactly. There’s such a massive part of “the other side” that don’t want to hear any empirical evidence or facts at all that cast into doubt the motivating points behind their positions.

And it’s like whack a mole…when you or the less extreme party’s representatives engage in conversation about a specific issue and try to have evidence based conversations, Trump is already talking about Haitians eating dogs or Boris is talking about £350million a week to the EU.

Are either of them true? No not at all. Does that matter? Not at all, because those voters don’t want facts they want soundbites to support their narrative which honestly today is just usually “i don’t want people that don’t look like me here”.
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This year’s soundbite was ‘Trump will fix it’. Let’s see
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Ashdown said:
When exactly was America great ? What period in time?
Imagine if we had a party campaigning along the lines of make Britain great again…at least I would roughly guess that meant from about 1750 to 1945 ish 🤷‍♂️
( And even then , it wasn't that great for the majority of the population)
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America is/was the biggest and most powerful empire the world has ever seen, just achieved in a different way. Very good book by Niall Ferguson on that very subject.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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SIR ERNIE said:
Just waking up here in SW Florida.
Clear lesson is ignore the electorate's concerns about immigration at your peril.
Massive shift to Trump by African American and Latino men was pivotal.
15m illegals coming into the country, driving down wages and taking their jobs was the reason.
Trump recognised it. Dems thought they could ignore it.
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Shame those people didn't notice that Trump's plan to sort it is to deport them.

I guess they also forget that Trump thinks they're all criminals and rapists.
 
Evo1883

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Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Evo1883 said:
Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts
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Most of it’s performative I think. That said, Trump is the master of crying on social media when he doesn’t get what he wants.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Evo1883 said:
Yes sure but to actually set your camera up to film yourself crying is fucking mental behaviour
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All part of an act to get people to watch it and the more OTT it is the more clicks it gets. I mean this is a time where some people get millions of pounds for stuffing their faces on camera.

I was doing that for years without the camera FFS
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Shame those people didn't notice that Trump's plan to sort it is to deport them.

I guess they also forget that Trump thinks they're all criminals and rapists.
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You think illegal immigrants should vote?
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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robbiekeane said:
Exactly. There’s such a massive part of “the other side” that don’t want to hear any empirical evidence or facts at all that cast into doubt the motivating points behind their positions.

And it’s like whack a mole…when you or the less extreme party’s representatives engage in conversation about a specific issue and try to have evidence based conversations, Trump is already talking about Haitians eating dogs or Boris is talking about £350million a week to the EU.

Are either of them true? No not at all. Does that matter? Not at all, because those voters don’t want facts they want soundbites to support their narrative which honestly today is just usually “i don’t want people that don’t look like me here”.
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I work in an area that's quite deprived and the locals tend to be less educated, poorer people.

Election time I heard a lot of people say how the problem was getting rid of Boris, and how Farage should get in as he'd sort it all out. Not really had that many mention the US but those that have tend to prefer Trump. They can't debate why they'd be good other than the usual sorting out immigrants stuff. They fall hook, line and sinker for the 'immigrants take all the housing, get loads of benefits and take the jobs for less wages'. It's what they want to hear so if someone says it they agree with them without any need for evidence.

One person was talking about Farage and how he'd stop the immigrants etc. and I asked if they'd actually read his manifesto, which clearly stated health and social care immigration was exempt from his proposed restrictions and so immigration would still be huge if he got in. I also pointed out how in fact there was a far bigger section on reducing benefits cos people are only on benefits cos their lazy and workshy, which would have had a massive effect on that person's family finances and it was just dismissed immediately. I tried to have a reasonable discussion with actual evidence and they had absolutely no intention of listening to it whatsoever because it didn't fit in with what they wanted to believe. And that's why I'm annoyed at those that say 'you don't listen to these people's concerns". We do, but they have no desire whatsoever to listen to the response.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Sick Boy said:
I’ve seen it described as a shock in quite a few places. Is anyone a surprised? I was fully expecting him to win.
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I've said he was going to win since he got the nomination.

A bit shocked at how seemingly some groups such as women and minorities seemed to have voted for Trump more this time, but not shocked he won overall.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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SBAndy said:
Strange isn’t it, how higher taxes mean fewer jobs and lower pay rises, but lower taxes don’t really result in more jobs and massive pay rises.
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And how tax cuts for the rich and businesses never directly lead to more jobs and higher wages, despite that always being the argument.
 
Nick

Nick

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Evo1883 said:
Why do people film themselves crying ?
I saw one person say they were scared to fall asleep because they think they will wake up and be a slave again

We live in a social media world where everybody has histrionic personality disorder I swear .

Absolutely nuts
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Saw an MP I think from London saying look after your neighbours. 🤣
 
Grendel

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Trump looks like smashing the popular vote
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Nick said:
Saw an MP I think from London saying look after your neighbours. 🤣
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It’s Dawn Butler who thinks Kemi Badenoch is a White Supremacist.

She really is a cretin.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The thing is, ‘Tampon Tim’ and ‘Kackling Kamala’ did spend most of their rallies and interviews trying to address these issues and had policies to address them too.

How many unions endorsed Trump?
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Unions will always side with a left leaning party. Often it shows how out of touch they are with their members
 
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