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[Otis]

I'm not sure what they expect; it's madness he's on the ballot.

Indeed.

We are now left with the following scenario with all this.

Either

1. Trump wins

Or

2. Trump loses, but actually won, because it was all rigged again.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Interesting that one of the most reliable US pollsters has Harris up by 3 in Iowa, which has been solidly Trump for two elections. If that’s anywhere near accurate he has a big problem.

 

[Otis]

Interesting that one of the most reliable US pollsters has Harris up by 3 in Iowa, which has been solidly Trump for two elections. If that’s anywhere near accurate he has a big problem.

I certainly hope so. As I have said before, I am not a fan of Harris, but Trump is talking in a very dangerous manner at the moment. Talking in terms of America being invaded and an occupied nation.

Very worrying, some of his rhetoric right now .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I certainly hope so. As I have said before, I am not a fan of Harris, but Trump is talking in a very dangerous manner at the moment. Talking in terms of America being invaded and an occupied nation.

Very worrying, some of his rhetoric right now .

It seems from this and other reliable polling that women have reacted strongly to what he’s done on abortion and they tend to vote in higher numbers than men. Could be that it’s this issue which will cost him the election.

 

[Otis]

It seems from this and other reliable polling that women have reacted strongly to what he’s done on abortion and they tend to vote in higher numbers than men. Could be that it’s this issue which will cost him the election.

Certainly hope so.

Women have the right to decide what they do with their own bodies.

It's just that religion is such a huge thing in the US isn't it and a lot of that is in conflict with abortion and against their creed

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Certainly hope so.

Women have the right to decide what they do with their own bodies.

It's just that religion is such a huge thing in the US isn't it and a lot of that is in conflict with abortion and against their creed

Trump Favourite with the bookies.
Was 1/2 but slipped a little , currently 7/10.

 

[Sick Boy]

Trump Favourite with the bookies.
Was 1/2 but slipped a little , currently 7/10.

It’ll be where the money is more than anything else.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Trump Favourite with the bookies.
Was 1/2 but slipped a little , currently 7/10.

I assume most people placing bets are blokes?

 

[CovValleyBoy]

It’ll be where the money is more than anything else.

Yes maybe. I recall he was about 5/1 in 2016 versus Lady Clinton.

 

[tisza]

Certainly hope so.

Women have the right to decide what they do with their own bodies.

It's just that religion is such a huge thing in the US isn't it and a lot of that is in conflict with abortion and against their creed

Not just that. Their system of checks and balances is fundamentally flawed when the ultimate arbiter (the supreme court) is itself a political operation. A loaded conservative Supreme Court decided the abortion issue - with judges specifically added for their known anti-abortion stance.

 

[Otis]

Not just that. Their system of checks and balances is fundamentally flawed when the ultimate arbiter (the supreme court) is itself a political operation. A loaded conservative Supreme Court decided the abortion issue - with judges specifically added for their known anti-abortion stance.

Yes, very true.

 

[Como]

There seems to be some confusion on the Abortion issue.

Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought it was not a Federal issue, and that was all that was confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Now it could be but that would require a Federal Law and for Congress to do something.

Where I am there is no limit, you can go the whole 9 months, other States do have limits, California permits abortions up until the point of fetal viability, which is usually around 24–26 weeks into a pregnancy. So California limits women's right to decide.

The Supreme Court have made no ruling on whether Abortion is legal or not. They just said it was not for the Feds to decide.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There seems to be some confusion on the Abortion issue.

Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought it was not a Federal issue, and that was all that was confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Now it could be but that would require a Federal Law and for Congress to do something.

Where I am there is no limit, you can go the whole 9 months, other States do have limits, California permits abortions up until the point of fetal viability, which is usually around 24–26 weeks into a pregnancy. So California limits women's right to decide.

The Supreme Court have made no ruling on whether Abortion is legal or not. They just said it was not for the Feds to decide.

Leaving it open for states to make barbaric laws

 

[Sick Boy]

Trump literally looks more and more like a clown as each day passes.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Trump literally looks more and more like a clown as each day passes.

Give it a few months

 

[Como]

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There seems to be some confusion on the Abortion issue.

Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought it was not a Federal issue, and that was all that was confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Now it could be but that would require a Federal Law and for Congress to do something.

Where I am there is no limit, you can go the whole 9 months, other States do have limits, California permits abortions up until the point of fetal viability, which is usually around 24–26 weeks into a pregnancy. So California limits women's right to decide.

The Supreme Court have made no ruling on whether Abortion is legal or not. They just said it was not for the Feds to decide.

The same argument was once made to justify continued slavery in the South.

 

[Como]

The same argument was once made to justify continued slavery in the South.

That was addressed by the 13th Ammendment

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That was addressed by the 13th Ammendment

You’re missing the point.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Leaving it open for states to make barbaric laws

Unfortunately that’s how the US works currently.

Ps we all know women should have the right to choose (I can’t believe we’re still even having the convo). The US is a strange mix/place though

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Unfortunately that’s how the US works currently.

Ps we all know women should have the right to choose (I can’t believe we’re still even having the convo). The US is a strange mix/place though

The court ruling allows a state government to control what a woman does with her body, to the extent of prosecuting them if they even try to seek an abortion in another state.

 

[Como]

The court ruling allows a state government to control what a woman does with her body, to the extent of prosecuting them if they even try to seek an abortion in another state.

As mentioned most legal systems have restrictions

The UK does

if you want it to be a Federal issue, then it has to be an ammendment

there are EU countries that are highly restrictive but they seem to get a pass

 

[Sick Boy]

As mentioned most legal systems have restrictions

The UK does

if you want it to be a Federal issue, then it has to be an ammendment

there are EU countries that are highly restrictive but they seem to get a pass

Yes, a whole 7%.

 

[wingy]

Yes, a whole 7%.

Who are they? Hungary,who else?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As mentioned most legal systems have restrictions

The UK does

if you want it to be a Federal issue, then it has to be an ammendment

there are EU countries that are highly restrictive but they seem to get a pass

There are restrictions and then there's women getting raped and forced to carry the baby to term. Perhaps an amendment on the issue is what's needed in the US, but even when the court ruled against segregation in schools, some states still took decades to adhere to it.

States' rights is most often trotted out to try and defend the indefensible, virtually always in deeply conservative states. In any case, what Trump did in stacking the court on this issue will be what costs him the election, if he loses.

 

[Sick Boy]

Who are they? Hungary,who else?

Malta and Poland are far stricter. I'm pretty sure both allow it in cases of rape and incest though.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Less than Japan and a bit more than us.

Does it really matter anyway, the payment of a bond denominated in USD is China's problem not America's. America has the means to pay any debt in USD.

 

[wingy]

Does it really matter anyway, the payment of a bond denominated in USD is China's problem not America's. America has the means to pay any debt in USD.

Doesn't the dollar then take the hit, how low can it go,and should it be respected in that scenario?

 

[Skybluekyle]

There are restrictions and then there's women getting raped and forced to carry the baby to term. Perhaps an amendment on the issue is what's needed in the US, but even when the court ruled against segregation in schools, some states still took decades to adhere to it.

States' rights is most often trotted out to try and defend the indefensible, virtually always in deeply conservative states. In any case, what Trump did in stacking the court on this issue will be what costs him the election, if he loses.

It is these kinds of issues that makes me happy we live in a country with an uncodified constitution (due to parliamentary sovereignty)

 

[Como]

There are restrictions and then there's women getting raped and forced to carry the baby to term. Perhaps an amendment on the issue is what's needed in the US, but even when the court ruled against segregation in schools, some states still took decades to adhere to it.

States' rights is most often trotted out to try and defend the indefensible, virtually always in deeply conservative states. In any case, what Trump did in stacking the court on this issue will be what costs him the election, if he loses.

The whole thing is a nonsense, after all easy enough to jump in a car, on a plane, it would be like Oxfordshire having a restriction and Berkshire saying all the way to 9 months.

But them this is not the only example I can think of of illogicalities.

EU is sort of similar with FoM.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The whole thing is a nonsense, after all easy enough to jump in a car, on a plane, it would be like Oxfordshire having a restriction and Berkshire saying all the way to 9 months.

But them this is not the only example I can think of of illogicalities.

EU is sort of similar with FoM.

Either way returning to the election, hopefully you voted regardless of who it's for!

 

[PVA]

Getting desperate

 

[Como]

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Kamala will win popular vote just but lose college

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Kamala will win popular vote just but lose college

My own estimate is she wins with around 290-250 in the college