Brighton Sky Blue
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Meaning? How many Europeans died to see the world rid of Hitler?
How many Ukrainians alive now won't see it?
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Shopping centre attack:
.It's a war crime. Put it in the notebook for later.
My real point is that we can keep pointing the finger and shouting "war crime !" but it means absolutely nothing because those responsible will never be brought to trial so why bother? We all know what's going on. It's like a school bully beating the living daylights out of a girl in the playground knowing that the teachers are scared stiff of him but they're doing their bit by writing it all down. It's all pointless.And these are just the ones we can verify. Christ knows what is going on in fully occupied areas.
My real point is that we can keep pointing the finger and shouting "war crime !" but it means absolutely nothing because those responsible will never be brought to trial so why bother? We all know what's going on. It's like a school bully beating the living daylights out of a girl in the playground knowing that the teachers are scared stiff of him but they're doing their bit by writing it all down. It's all pointless.
This is a war and in war there are absolutely no rules and that's the way it's always been.
What a ridiculous commentMeaning? How many Europeans died to see the world rid of Hitler?
Unknown but part of a negotiated settlement might be just to recognise the existing separatist areas as Russian or perhaps allowing what's left of the population to self determine. I don't know, I just believe that a prolonged war will see untold death and destruction and a hollow victory for whomever it may be.How many wouldn’t survive occupation?
What a ridiculous comment
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Unknown but part of a negotiated settlement might be just to recognise the existing separatist areas as Russian or perhaps allowing what's left of the population to self determine. I don't know, I just believe that a prolonged war will see untold death and destruction and a hollow victory for whomever it may be.
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Really? We have people here saying Ukraine should follow the French example and allow itself to be divided up.
This seems spectacularly naive. Russia has been open about its wish to annihilate Ukrainian culture, they’ve been forcing people to move, shooting and raping the population, forcing Russian citizenship on them. There’s no chance they’ll just let those in south east Ukraine crack on with their lives, and only a slim chance that’ll be the end of their aspirations.
The very fact you’re calling some occupied territory “separatist areas” brings your judgement and balance into question TBH.
That’s what Chamberlain said about the Nazi’s.Its far more balanced than nonsense saying Russia is going for European domination and will start rolling tanks through the rest of Europe
This seems spectacularly naive. Russia has been open about its wish to annihilate Ukrainian culture, they’ve been forcing people to move, shooting and raping the population, forcing Russian citizenship on them. There’s no chance they’ll just let those in south east Ukraine crack on with their lives, and only a slim chance that’ll be the end of their aspirations.
The very fact you’re calling some occupied territory “separatist areas” brings your judgement and balance into question TBH.
That’s what Chamberlain said about the Nazi’s.
Can you explain to me what the alternative is?
Arm them.
There’s some long range multi launch rockets going into the field right now that could make a big difference. Russia is down to reservists and unwilling to conscript.
Best case is probably that they don’t lose the whole south coast and it’s ports. And push Russia back to Donetsk and Luhansk, away from as much of the oil fields as possible. But that will only happen if they’re forced back.
At what point will you understand that he'll just regroup, send his 'separatists' further into Ukraine to get the narrative they want independence and go again? It won't stop the war, at best it will pause it so he can manufacture more weapons to bomb the fuck out of it and kill even more people.
How many people died after "peace in our time"?
But doing that will just embolden Putin to repeat the tactics of putting his operatives into those areas so he can separate them over time too. It's not a solution - it's a lull in proceedings before it all happens again.Unknown but part of a negotiated settlement might be just to recognise the existing separatist areas as Russian or perhaps allowing what's left of the population to self determine. I don't know, I just believe that a prolonged war will see untold death and destruction and a hollow victory for whomever it may be.
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At what point will they realise that's exactly what happened in Crimea and Donbas?At what point will you understand most military experts would say you are talking shite?
And is happening in Moldova as well. He is on the march much like Hitler in the 1930’s.At what point will they realise that's exactly what happened in Crimea and Donbas?
At what point will they realise that's exactly what happened in Crimea and Donbas?
And is happening in Moldova as well. He is on the march much like Hitler in the 1930’s.
At what point will you understand most military experts would say you are talking shite?
The man himself has said he doesn't recognise Ukraine's right to exist. Think he's made his intentions pretty clear.
That’s not answered the question?
How? A negotiation where Ukraine gives up some territory won't change what Putin ultimately wants and will push for.
Again no military expert agrees with you do they?
What does Putin say?
What does Putin say?
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