Bloody hell.
"A Russian fighter jet fired a missile at a manned British surveillance aircraft flying over the Black Sea in September but the munition malfunctioned, according to U.S. defense officials and a recently leaked classified U.S. intelligence report. The incident was far more serious than originally portrayed and could have amounted to an act of war."
Miscommunication Nearly Led to Russian Jet Shooting Down British Spy Plane, U.S. Officials Say (Published 2023)
Recently leaked intelligence documents called the incident, last year, a near shoot down. Officials said it was more serious than originally reported.www.nytimes.com
TBF putin has ordered chemical attacks on British soil twice and we did nothing. Litvnienko and the Sailsbury one. Bloke does what he wants without reprocussions
What reaction was there to the poisonings?Yeah that’s true. I think this would be different though, given the current situation and the fact we’re currently supplying arms against Russia.
I don’t think it would be all out war by any means, but there would be a reaction of sorts.
What reaction was there to the poisonings?
What reaction was there to the poisonings?
I'm not surprised as it's a case of letting the intelligence agency without sin cast the first stonethere have been numerous murders over the years attributed to the KGB - nothing is done
What a c**t.
Sickening if true. Goes to show there are good and bad people on both sides and the war needs to end immediately.
The twitter feed that posted that is a hive of weirdosWhat a c**t.
Sickening if true. Goes to show there are good and bad people on both sides and the war needs to end immediately.
I agree. If Putin withdraws it does end immediately.
That isn’t controversial surely? It’s a statement of fact.
You are implying it’s acceptable.
Who invaded?
incredible and you teach children
What is incredible about the idea that Ukraine shouldn’t have to give up its own territory?
What’s incredible is you don’t condemn behaviour regardless of the side it’s on
We have I am sure posters on here who went and fought in Iraq - we were the invaders. So you’d be ok with an Iraq soldier gloating and ringing the spouse of a dead uk soldier - actually you’d say it’s fine as we were the invader and the soldier and his spouse deserve that?
Or if Trump gets in.I agree. If Putin withdraws it does end immediately.
You mean Putin.Or if Trump gets in.
If he does get in I can’t imagine the same level of funding will be available, which would end it pretty quickly.You mean Putin.
For sure he’ll cut the funding, he is Putin’s Vichy president, or should that be First Lady? He’s certainly Putins bitch. Not sure it will end it, if anything it will drag it out longer. Not sure Europe has the luxury of turning their back on it. It’s on our continent and we’re already invested.If he does get in I can’t imagine the same level of funding will be available, which would end it pretty quickly.
If he does get in I can’t imagine the same level of funding will be available, which would end it pretty quickly.
saw an interesting roundtable of former US & European intelligence heads and politicians discuss this last week. They concluded Trump playing to his audience but the reality is US needs European alliance/support due to the increasing closeness of Russia & China. He may apply pressure to get Ukraine to make some concessions but can't afford to let Russia get too much so wouldn't pull the plug enough to allow Russia to hold everything it has taken.For sure he’ll cut the funding, he is Putin’s Vichy president, or should that be First Lady? He’s certainly Putins bitch. Not sure it will end it, if anything it will drag it out longer. Not sure Europe has the luxury of turning their back on it. It’s on our continent and we’re already invested.
No doubt about that but I doubt Europe would be able to replace the USA’s amount of funding.For sure he’ll cut the funding, he is Putin’s Vichy president, or should that be First Lady? He’s certainly Putins bitch. Not sure it will end it, if anything it will drag it out longer. Not sure Europe has the luxury of turning their back on it. It’s on our continent and we’re already invested.
The west has been taking part in enforced regime change over the last couple of decades and killing innocent people - there wasn’t the same level of concern then.Which would mean Putin acquiring a considerable amount of European territory as well as a bread basket.
It’s kind of an irrelevant argument though. The fact is Putin wholesale has invaded another country. Another country that is a democracy and willing to fight for it. That’s just a fact.The west has been taking part in enforced regime change over the last couple of decades and killing innocent people - there wasn’t the same level of concern then.
It’s kind of an irrelevant argument though. The fact is Putin wholesale has invaded another country. Another country that is a democracy and willing to fight for it. That’s just a fact.
The west also “wholesale invaded” another countries. If they’d had the level of funding going to Ukraine I’m sure they’d also have been able to put up a fight.It’s kind of an irrelevant argument though. The fact is Putin wholesale has invaded another country. Another country that is a democracy and willing to fight for it. That’s just a fact.
And I don’t know anyone who doesn’t think that Tony Blair isn’t a war criminal, either at the time or retrospectively including a cousin of mine who fought in the first gulf war. I’m not sure what your point is unless you’re arguing that 2 wrongs make a right.We invaded another country
The west also “wholesale invaded” another countries. If they’d had the level of funding going to Ukraine I’m sure they’d also have been able to put up a fight.
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