In my case at least it’s become a tiresome debate. I still believe that allowing Ukraine to be swallowed up by Russia will have serious consequences for Europe, you don’t think it will matter that much and that’s the root of the disagreement.So people just surrender as they are bored by Russian propaganda? If they see through that I am sure they would carry on debating the issue as with every other political thread would they not?
Has Ukraine confirmed it? Russia has a history of false flag attacks if only for a pro war headline at home.Flabbergasted at Putin's hypocrisy accusing Ukraine of "major provocation" with their incursion in Russian territory.
Official sources have apparently verified. He has accused Ukraine of "invading Russia and attacking its citizens". Would be funny if it wasn't so deadly.Has Ukraine confirmed it? Russia has a history of false flag attacks if only for a pro war headline at home.
Probably diversionaryIt’d be interesting to know what the long term strategy behind the attack is.
Flabbergasted at Putin's hypocrisy accusing Ukraine of "major provocation" with their incursion in Russian territory.
When Hitler went all in on the invasion of Poland, Germany itself wasn’t particularly well defended and Britain/France could actually have caused some damage had they gone for it.They should try a Wagner style push towards Moscow. Would be amusing to see a small force make it all the way when Russia have spent 3 and a half years throwing the kitchen sink and getting nowhere.
When Hitler went all in on the invasion of Poland, Germany itself wasn’t particularly well defended and Britain/France could actually have caused some damage had they gone for it.
Putin likewise has thrown everything he has at Ukraine on the assumption that his own territory won’t be attacked.
Seems a small one. But if you concentrated enough force and broke through the Russians near the border, you wouldn’t have much between you and the capital. Particularly if it were air supported.How far did Wagner get, like 150 miles from Moscow or something?
Russia seemingly has no reserves and breaking the lines gives a free run.
No idea how big this force is though
How far did Wagner get, like 150 miles from Moscow or something?
Russia seemingly has no reserves and breaking the lines gives a free run.
No idea how big this force is though
When Hitler went all in on the invasion of Poland, Germany itself wasn’t particularly well defended and Britain/France could actually have caused some damage had they gone for it.
Putin likewise has thrown everything he has at Ukraine on the assumption that his own territory won’t be attacked.
You seriously drew that conclusion from my post? Good grief
It’d be interesting to know what the long term strategy behind the attack is.
Wagner got nowhere near Moscow.
They have already got further with this little incursion than Russia's Kharkiv offensive which was labelled as an incredible success and a sign that the end is near for Ukraine.
It was about 60 IIRC. Almost took Russia in a Saturday morning. 4 years later Putin still embarrassing himself on a daily basis failing to take a country nobody expected to last 4 days. The Ukrainians are tough and determined but really the two things are a measure of how awful Putin is at war. Pure Napoleon complex.150 miles or something. They could quite easily have got their if they wanted, there was nothing stopping them.
The Russian Kharkov offensive is unlikely to be an attempt at taking the city given the forces committed, but more a fixing operation to force ukraine to spread its already thin manpower even thinner.
The Kharkiv offensive was an absolute disaster for Russia.
What was the goal of the operation?
Presumably they’re going circumnavigate the minefields Russia has installed across the front line in Ukraine by invading Russia, turning right, re-enter occupied Ukraine and attack the Russian lines from behind in a classic pincer movement. They’ve had little joy attacking across the minefields for obvious reasons. Alternatively it strengthens their hand in any negotiations. We’ll leave your territory if you leave ours. Who knows. Either way Putin is rattled. The 4 day special operation is not going to plan.Crikey, reports of up to 25k Ukrainians in this ‘incursion’. Didn’t think it would be anywhere near that. I hope they know what they’re doing…
Day 900 of the 3 day war - Russia is bombing itself
Interesting of you to predict Harris will get a second termIt will carry on for another 5 years if Kamala Harris wins - enjoy the death and destruction as the proxy war continues
It will carry on for another 5 years if Kamala Harris wins - enjoy the death and destruction as the proxy war continues
TBF, it was an if, not a when - so not actually a prediction.Interesting of you to predict Harris will get a second term
Was being facetious. I imagine a settlement is still likely to happen regardless of who wins the election.TBF, it was an if, not a when - so not actually a prediction.
The way these last few days have gone give it 5 years and Putin will be begging Kim Jong Un for help in removing Ukraine from Russia
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