USSR invades Ukraine. (9 Viewers)

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Flying Fokker

Flying Fokker

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shmmeee said:
The Azov are only in the South, doesn’t explain the rest of the country. Anyway aren’t you in Hungary or somewhere? I’d be worried about full scale invasion of a country of 45m being justified by 900 Nazis.

There’s no evidence of genocide or even brutality. Intentionally or not you’re parroting Russian propaganda as fact.
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Sorry, just to clarify my stance.

I'm clearly pro Ukraine, but that view has been garnered through doing my own research rather than dismissing what others have to say. I admit to dismissing the unpalatable crap that comes out of the Russian Propaganda machine.

I look for a degree of balance in reading about this conflict. Just because I read up on the Russian view does not make me complicit. Far from it, I'm hoping I'm better informed than those who insist they are right without actually finding out about it first. They may well be correct of course.

I hope you look at the reasons for the conflict and interrogate what information all sides are putting out to their citizens.

To me, it's blindingly obvious that Russia needs stopping. Am I parroting propaganda? Nah, I think I am reasonably well informed in being able to say that categorically rather than simply believe everything I see/ hear. You may have also noted that many of my posts leave it for you to decide the truth.... So again, I am not parroting propaganda?

Other posts such as my view that we cannot currently have a no-fly zone are due to my listening to the views of those who know and making my own mind up.

There is stuff out there that you can access. I am not espousing the Russian pretext for going in.
There are documentaries concerning the Russian Ukrainian genocide and their take on the overthrowing of the government in 2014 Quoted as 14000 people killed in the conflict prior to this current war. Better the devil you know.

What is more concerning for me is the way many Russian people refuse to believe what is happening now. Brain washed.
 
Flying Fokker

Flying Fokker

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Lavrov was asked to explain how a Jew could become leader of a country infested with Nazis.

He said he didn't know and it was a very good question. Even the chief spin doctor can't make something up
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Yes, I've seen some other articles about this. Every read seems to have its own slant. I'm beginning to think that nobody knows what a Nazi is? Putin was very quick to use the term in attacking Ukraine.


Jewish Ukraine Fights Nazi Russia - Tablet Magazine
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Flying Fokker said:
Yes, I've seen some other articles about this. Every read seems to have its own slant. I'm beginning to think that nobody knows what a Nazi is? Putin was very quick to use the term in attacking Ukraine.


Jewish Ukraine Fights Nazi Russia - Tablet Magazine
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Given that the ultimate Nazi viewed anyone east of Austria as racially sub human I don’t think he would approve of any of them taking the mantle.

Not really like Russia to stick to historical truth at the best of times.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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PVA said:
I assume that's probably aimed at me and I apologise.

I genuinely try and bring some discussion to this thread and post various news and stories which some find interesting (and some don't I'm sure), I just get caught up in Grendel's bullshit as he replies to every post of mine with an argument.

I'll try and avoid getting involved in it.

Sorry lads

Might be a bit Gareth from The Office but this is a subject that genuinely interests me as I have a strong interest in military history.
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Sounds more like Mark Corrigan to me.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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shmmeee said:
The Azov are only in the South, doesn’t explain the rest of the country. Anyway aren’t you in Hungary or somewhere? I’d be worried about full scale invasion of a country of 45m being justified by 900 Nazis.

There’s no evidence of genocide or even brutality. Intentionally or not you’re parroting Russian propaganda as fact.
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Different poster.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Russian Ambassador to the UN went out and claimed the Ukraine was shelling itself at the UN today.

With bullshit like that I'd be shocked if he didn't have a log in here.
 
Mr Panda

Mr Panda

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David O'Day said:
Russian Ambassador to the UN went out and claimed the Ukraine was shelling itself at the UN today.

With bullshit like that I'd be shocked if he didn't have a log in here.
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I've been discussing this with a Russian I know and they're also convinced Ukraine are shelling the people corridor of Ukranians heading to Russia.

Utterly convinced Ukraine is Nazi controlled and their mind won't change because they're a "patriot".

It's so difficult to reason with
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Otis said:
BBC News - Ukraine invasion: False claims the war is a hoax go viral
www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine invasion: False claims the war is a hoax go viral

False claims have been spreading that the Ukraine war is a hoax and that actors have been involved in staging events.
www.bbc.co.uk

Grrrrr. Bloody hard enough to convince Russians of the truth as it is, without this sort of tosh on top 🤦
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It’s completely bananas isn’t it?
 
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PVA

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Incredible levels of ineptitude from Russia

Create a super secure phone system
Destroy the network infrastructure it relies on
Resort to using shop bought mobiles

They may well win this war via attrition but this has been a staggeringly inept campaign


 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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PVA said:
Incredible levels of ineptitude from Russia

Create a super secure phone system
Destroy the network infrastructure it relies on
Resort to using shop bought mobiles

They may well win this war via attrition but this has been a staggeringly inept campaign


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They’ve gone all breaking bad with burner phones.
 
Grendel

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jimmyhillsfanclub

jimmyhillsfanclub

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PVA said:
Oh here it is:

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Well, atleast its a start.....a very small & very slow start.......but its actually the EU OIL imports that are directly funding Putins war.......

.....and so far they've decided to swerve that issue completely..... especially Little Emperor Macron.....doesn't want to risk his re-election now does he....

Cunts are still running the world.
 
covmark

covmark

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Ukrainians on way to UK hit paperwork dead-end in Calais

"No visa for at least another week," said Misha, simply. "No-one can help us in Calais."
www.bbc.co.uk

...and this is both disgusting & embarrssing all at the same time.....

......just let them on the ferry you incompetent bunch of cunts.
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Saw that on the news yesterday. It's a fucking shambles.

Priti Patel said there was a surge of help over there. Turns out it was a couple of blokes, hiding in some obscure office, with a box of Walkers and a couple of Kit Kats. You couldn't make it up.

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jimmyhillsfanclub

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www.bbc.co.uk

McDonald's and Coca-Cola boycott calls grow over Russia

Food and drink giants have been criticised on social media for failing to speak out on Ukraine's invasion.
www.bbc.co.uk

Apart from the occassional urgent requirement for taking a shit, I don't use McDonalds, KFC, Starbucks & the like...... grubby lukewarm food & shit coffee that is bad for me, bad for the environment & also the UKs major source of street litter......but it will be interesting to see if a boycott gets any traction.....

I won't hold my breath.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
www.bbc.co.uk

McDonald's and Coca-Cola boycott calls grow over Russia

Food and drink giants have been criticised on social media for failing to speak out on Ukraine's invasion.
www.bbc.co.uk

Apart from the occassional urgent requirement for taking a shit, I don't use McDonalds, KFC, Starbucks & the like...... grubby lukewarm food & shit coffee that is bad for me, bad for the environment & also the UKs major source of street litter......but it will be interesting to see if a boycott gets any traction.....

I won't hold my breath.
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I think the pangs for a Big Mac will over ride principals for the majority somehow

I’ve never understood the interest in McDonald’s a place where you are actually surprised if your food arrives warm. I don’t think I’ve ever had the delights of a KFC in my life
 
Otis

Otis

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Grendel said:
I think the pangs for a Big Mac will over ride principals for the majority somehow

I’ve never understood the interest in McDonald’s a place where you are actually surprised if your food arrives warm. I don’t think I’ve ever had the delights of a KFC in my life
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I used to love KFC in my pre vegetarian days.

Hardly ever eat in McDonald's (maybe twice in the last 10-15 years)

My fast food of choice is Leon's. More expensive, but everything I have ever had from there has been nice.
 
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