USSR invades Ukraine. (17 Viewers)

[Grendel]

In the past for sure, I don’t hide away from that. How’s Brexit and the Tory government you enabled by voting for it going? You still towing the Murdoch, Barclays and Rothermere line that you shouldn’t be regretting your vote contrary to the evidence of your own eyes and reality?

Says the former UKIP voter - here is your hero Tony

 

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[Sick Boy]

In the past for sure, I don’t hide away from that. How’s Brexit and the Tory government you enabled by voting for it going? You still towing the Murdoch, Barclays and Rothermere line that you shouldn’t be regretting your vote contrary to the evidence of your own eyes and reality?

You voted for the Tories when they included a referendum on Brexit in their manifesto.

 

[Grendel]

You voted for the Tories when they included a referendum on Brexit in their manifesto.

And then voted UKIP

 

[PVA]

If Ukraine were at war with anybody else you'd be sat here calling them nazi scum and hoping they got beat

Erm, no I wouldn't.

 

[Grendel]

The most classic thread ever

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Just noticed I have an imposter on GMK. Sounds like a smear campaign against my good name as I can currently only find the one post and it has racial undertones, strange that as I have been attacked on here by some GMK faithful for pointing out casual racism on GMK threads. Still imitation is a...

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[Grendel]

Erm, no I wouldn't.

wow

 

[PVA]

wow

I know right, thinking that a sovereign country doesn't deserve to be wiped off the planet is a pretty radical opinion. Wow indeed.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Well thats great - in other news Fred West was not too bad a chap compared to John Wayne Gacey

You're not even close there I'm afraid.

 

[Grendel]

I know right, thinking that a sovereign country doesn't deserve to be wiped off the planet is a pretty radical opinion. Wow indeed.

More your observation on Ukraine and its far right bigotry and appalling human rights issues

 

[skybluetony176]

You voted for the Tories when they included a referendum on Brexit in their manifesto.

Like I said. In the past for sure. I don’t hide from that.

With the benefit of hindsight I would never have voted Tory in the 2015 GE and I openly admit that I didn’t fully understand at the time what I was voting for. I can’t turn the clock back but I can acknowledge that mistake and learn from it so I’m not destined to repeat the same mistakes rather than admit I fucked up.

Not sure what your issue is with that.

 

[PVA]

More your observation on Ukraine and its far right bigotry and appalling human rights issues

What on earth are you blathering on about?

I simply said if you swapped Russia with any other nation in this war I wouldn't be supporting the destruction of Ukraine.

There is absolutely nothing 'wow' about that, it's a pretty normal opinion, and I made no observation of far right bigotry or human rights.

 

[duffer]

So, absolutely no answer on how allowing Putin to take Ukraine by force improves democracy, reduces corruption, or enhances press freedom in that country then.

That's because it's an obviously shit argument; literally the worst, weakest, most pathetic excuse ever for denying them support.

There might be some kind of rational argument against supporting Ukraine, but that clearly isn't it. Try harder.

 

[Grendel]

So, absolutely no answer on how allowing Putin to take Ukraine by force improves democracy, reduces corruption, or enhances press freedom in that country then.

That's because it's an obviously shit argument; literally the worst, weakest, most pathetic excuse ever for denying them support.

There might be some kind of rational argument against supporting Ukraine, but that clearly isn't it. Try harder.

It doesn’t improve any of and no one has suggested otherwise

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Look at the posts on the last few pages of this thread, good grief.

 

[PVA]

So, absolutely no answer on how allowing Putin to take Ukraine by force improves democracy, reduces corruption, or enhances press freedom in that country then.

That's because it's an obviously shit argument; literally the worst, weakest, most pathetic excuse ever for denying them support.

There might be some kind of rational argument against supporting Ukraine, but that clearly isn't it. Try harder.

Mad isn't it.

Presumably these people would welcome an invasion by China to 'denazify' the UK.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Mad isn't it.

Presumably these people would welcome an invasion by China to 'denazify' the UK.

Not even Putin's spokesman could explain how Ukraine is simultaneously full of Nazis yet also led by a Jew.

 

[PVA]

Not even Putin's spokesman could explain how Ukraine is simultaneously full of Nazis yet also led by a Jew.

Well why don't you just ask him, he posts on this forum

cc @Grendel

 

[Grendel]

Well why don't you just ask him, he posts on this forum

cc @Grendel

It wasn’t me who said it / also somewhat ironic given many in here say Israel is a Nazi state

 

[Grendel]

Not even Putin's spokesman could explain how Ukraine is simultaneously full of Nazis yet also led by a Jew.

Somewhat ironic really

 

[Grendel]

Mad isn't it.

Presumably these people would welcome an invasion by China to 'denazify' the UK.

Why? What does that drivel even mean?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Somewhat ironic really

How? It was one of the original reasons Putin gave for the invasion and it's quite obviously absurd

 

[PVA]

Why? What does that drivel even mean?

Because you think Ukraine having a small element of far right amongst it's demographics makes it fair game for Putin, so I just assume you'd be happy for the UK to follow suit.

 

[Grendel]

How? It was one of the original reasons Putin gave for the invasion and it's quite obviously absurd

Many people have compared Israel and its government to an apartheid Nazi state

Ukraine is a far right state with appalling racist and homophobic behaviour. Zelensky is a grifter purely interested in financial gains and is in the pocket of corrupt oligarchs. He has huge wealth which wasn’t gained by a crummy TV series and its lodged in Cayman Island accounts - so forgive me if I don’t really shed too many tears for him and his dodgy corrupt government

 

[Grendel]

Because you think Ukraine having a small element of far right amongst it's demographics makes it fair game for Putin, so I just assume you'd be happy for the UK to follow suit.

A small element? It’s a state built on extremism. It’s a corrupt country which has appalling human rights. Why do you actually care about these people? It’s childlike binary arguments again I see.

 

[PVA]

Why do you actually care about these people?

Well there it is.

'Innocent civilians deserve to die because the president is a grifter'

What a truly appalling c**t you are.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Many people have compared Israel and its government to an apartheid Nazi state

Ukraine is a far right state with appalling racist and homophobic behaviour. Zelensky is a grifter purely interested in financial gains and is in the pocket of corrupt oligarchs. He has huge wealth which wasn’t gained by a crummy TV series and its lodged in Cayman Island accounts - so forgive me if I don’t really shed too many tears for him and his dodgy corrupt government

At least the mask has slipped

 

[Grendel]

Well there it is.

'Innocent civilians deserve to die because the president is a grifter'

What a truly appalling c**t you are.

Where have I said anyone deserves to die. It’s the likes of you that want death and destruction to carry on - own it

 

[PVA]

Where have I said anyone deserves to die. It’s the likes of you that want death and destruction to carry on - own it

Well you've said you don't care if they die. It's a fucking awful take. But not that surprising from you I guess.

 

[Grendel]

Well you've said you don't care if they die. It's a fucking awful take. But not that surprising from you I guess.

You couldn’t give a fuck who dies. You want more death - at least be honest and own it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You couldn’t give a fuck who dies. You want more death - at least be honest and own it

Who started the killing in this case? Zelensky?

 

[PVA]

You couldn’t give a fuck who dies.

You've literally just said this yourself. It's there for all to see.

Don't try and put it on me, you said it. It's your opinion.

 

[Grendel]

You've literally just said this yourself. It's there for all to see.

Don't try and put it on me, you said it. It's your opinion.

I’ve said I want talks for a peace solution. Do you?

 

[SBT]

Many people have compared Israel and its government to an apartheid Nazi state

Ukraine is a far right state with appalling racist and homophobic behaviour. Zelensky is a grifter purely interested in financial gains and is in the pocket of corrupt oligarchs. He has huge wealth which wasn’t gained by a crummy TV series and its lodged in Cayman Island accounts - so forgive me if I don’t really shed too many tears for him and his dodgy corrupt government

Personally I’m not too bothered about whichever Ukrainian government is in power. If there were tears to be shed it would be for the ordinary Ukrainians being shelled in their homes for no real reason.

 

[PVA]

I’ve said I want talks for a peace solution. Do you?

You said you don't care about innocent civilians dying all because you don't like Zelensky. Which is just fucking gross.

 

[Grendel]

You said you don't care about innocent civilians dying all because you don't like Zelensky. Which is just fucking gross.

Do you want peace?