USSR invades Ukraine. (21 Viewers)

Grendel

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Its a joke Starmer is prepared to deny heating allowances for many struggling pensioners but can magic £3 billion a year "for as long as it takes" to continue this folly
 

SIR ERNIE

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Its a joke Starmer is prepared to deny heating allowances for many struggling pensioners but can magic £3 billion a year "for as long as it takes" to continue this folly
Ukraine or pensioners.
Davos or Westminster.
 

Grendel

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There is geoloacted footage available if you don't believe that source.

How exciting. Do you think we should still be wasting £3 billion on this nonsense?
 

Diogenes

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Looks like it was one of those suicide missions that the Ukr military are fond of.

Apparently it was 4 tanks and 10 vehicles and they pushed forward some Buk AD units which got toasted.

Genuinely think that Sirsky is working for Russia at this point.

 

Grendel

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I think we should continue helping a sovereign nation from being wiped off the map yes, but you know that already.

Oh well.

“sorry Mr pensioner if you are a bit cold but console yourself with the fact that we are prolonging the death of more Ukrainians so just put another blanket on”
 

PVA

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Oh we're back to the 'Ukraine isn't even a real country' stage.

Wonderful.

This board really is full of some of the sharpest minds capable of incredible levels of critical thinking.
 

Diogenes

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Oh we're back to the 'Ukraine isn't even a real country' stage.

Wonderful.

This board really is full of some of the sharpest minds capable of incredible levels of critical thinking.

Tell me, when do you think Ukraine will win the war?
 

PVA

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Tell me, when do you think Ukraine will win the war?

That moment has probably passed now. Ukraine had the momentum and the possibility to win but the West bottled it.

But Russia does not have limitless supplies of equipment, they can't sustain this forever.
 

Sick Boy

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What do they need, and does the west possess it?
I've said for a long time that it's a war they wouldn't win, especially since the failed counteroffensive.
The only way they'd have been able to win is if the West had been directly involved, which was never going to happen.
 

Grendel

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I've said for a long time that it's a war they wouldn't win, especially since the failed counteroffensive.
The only way they'd have been able to win is if the West had been directly involved, which was never going to happen.

Apparently the West “bottled it”
 

Diogenes

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Hell yes. RT.com didn’t run it for some reason…

Erm

It's all over Russian media...

 

Grendel

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They did. Petrified of Putin's non existent red lines.

Talking of which, you said providing jets to Ukraine would start WW3.

Even you will have day accept the west never wanted to win but just to make it last as long as they can. The only Ukrainian benefitting from this is the grifter Zelensky.
 

PVA

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Even you will have day accept the west never wanted to win but just to make it last as long as they can. The only Ukrainian benefitting from this is the grifter Zelensky.

If all he cares about is personal gain then why not just cut a deal with Putin and not have tens of thousands of his compatriots killed?
 

Diogenes

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If all he cares about is personal gain then why not just cut a deal with Putin and not have tens of thousands of his compatriots killed?

1. Zelensky passed a law making it illegal to negotiate with Putin.
2. Russia no longer considers Zelensky legitimate due to Zelensky overstaying his presidential term without holding new elections so they will not negotiate with him either now.
 

PVA

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1. Zelensky passed a law making it illegal to negotiate with Putin.
2. Russia no longer considers Zelensky legitimate due to Zelensky overstaying his presidential term without holding new elections so they will not negotiate with him either now.

1. So he's not interested in purely financial gain
2. Did they consider him legitimate when they invaded his country and tried to assassinate him in the first few days of the invasion?
 

Grendel

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If all he cares about is personal gain then why not just cut a deal with Putin and not have tens of thousands of his compatriots killed?

Because he is happy remaining in power and getting feted by the West
 

Grendel

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In the end this forum shows in a way the mood change. There were scores of people outraged by Putin when the invasion began. Now there is virtually just @PVA holding the corner.
 

PVA

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In the end this forum shows in a way the mood change. There were scores of people outraged by Putin when the invasion began. Now there is virtually just @PVA holding the corner.

I think most people have just got fed up of reading Russian propaganda and the absurd viewpoints that come with it.

You think those people are no longer outraged by Putin?
 

Grendel

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I think most people have just got fed up of reading Russian propaganda and the absurd viewpoints that come with it.

You think those people are no longer outraged by Putin?

So people just surrender as they are bored by Russian propaganda? If they see through that I am sure they would carry on debating the issue as with every other political thread would they not?
 

Diogenes

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1. So he's not interested in purely financial gain
2. Did they consider him legitimate when they invaded his country and tried to assassinate him in the first few days of the invasion?

I think its very likely that the only way zelensky stays alive is by continuing the war.
 

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