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dongonzalos

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Sky Blue Thinking: Stayaway City fans lead into temptation - Villa Park!
13 February 2014 10:14 AM By Andy Turner
Some Coventry City fans would rather watch Aston Villa get hammered than go down to Sixfields


I know some people, friends in fact, who are missing their regular football fix so much that they are about to take desperate measures.

They’ve thought long and hard about it, even been troubled by it; perhaps woken up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, shuddering at the mere thought of what they are about to do.

And before you jump to conclusions, no it’s not a trip to Sixfields although, as fully paid-up members of the stay away crew, they did have a little wobble a few of weeks ago.

The couple in question – a man of the cloth and his good lady – were seriously thinking about going to the Walsall game, which would have been their first home fixture this season, but the weather put paid to that – divine intervention perhaps, in their moment of weakness.

These are passionate people whose Sky Blue faith is being tested by forces outside their control preventing them from going to their chosen house of Saturday worship.

They’ve had their football removed from their parish and have taken the difficult decision to join another flock albeit, at this stage at least, on a one-off basis.

It’s what most City fans would think as the unthinkable. Many would rather stick needles in their eyes than set off down the M6 on the road to perdition. Yes, that’s right ladies and gentlemen, they have bought tickets to the Villa!

They’re going to watch them against Mourinho’s little gee-gee next month, and who can blame them? At least the quality of one of the teams on show will be guaranteed to be of a high standard. And as shocking as the prospect of going up the Villa sounds it could, actually, prove to be a quite a cathartic experience.

Although they will be putting money into the Villa Park coffers they will, in all probability, be paying to watch them get thumped. And that, in some books, would be money well spent.

It may be a one-off at this stage, but what if they enjoy their matchday experience back in the big time? What if they go again... and again?

It may be a bit perverse but it may actually be the perfect antidote to City’s frustrating off-field stalemate; to watch Villa’s demise, to see them suffer and, ultimately, dance on the Holte End when they go down – if not this season then surely next.

But in all seriousness, it is a clear case of desperate times require desperate measures.




It may not sit well, it may go completely against the grain, but they will be seeing top-flight football for the first time since their own club dropped out in 2001 and slipped further and further away from the likelihood of that ever being a tangible prospect again.

Voting with their feet, of course, is the only voice left for the fans who continue to travel in numbers to watch their beloved team and make their plight heard.

The paper protests at The Emirates and again at Meadow Lane at the weekend spoke loud and clear at a time when the club, incredibly, continue to choose not to listen to their customers’ pleas to return home.

And why, for the sake of a bitter row over rent that has developed into the most acrimonious stone throwing exercise that has lost sight of what is important, what is right, and boiled down to bloody-minded principles and a stubborn refusal to budge.

At a time when Leicester are playing Under-21 games at the Ricoh – which must be the best surface in the country given its lack of use – City are having first and second team games postponed at Sixfields where, by all accounts, the pitch has taken a real battering in recent weeks and is likely to be in a dreadful state for the rest of the season.

If we get more rain this week, as is forecast, then Saturday’s game with Bradford will be under threat.

The reality is the club could go back this weekend. They could show willing, make a huge conciliatory gesture to their business adversaries as well as their customers, and win back thousands of fans in body at least, if not in mind.

Some will always be bitter and probably continue to protest against the owners as long as they have two s’s, an i and u in their name. But many will come flooding back, just happy to see their team return to Coventry.

Being big enough and bold enough to take that first step to overcome the distrust and animosity could open new doors to their ultimate aim of ownership, in whatever form.

If they went back and started working with the stadium rather than against it, became good tenants, then who’s to say that further down the line the council won’t be more amenable to do a deal, to reach a compromise that suits all parties.

Unfortunately the words conciliatory and compromise haven’t figured too highly in this sorry mess .

But if they did then perhaps it might stop a few more defecting to pastures new, not to mention the lost generation currently, no doubt, tossing up between Chelsea, Man City or, Heaven forbid, Villa for their next replica kit.
 

Hobo

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There is a big difference between going to watch a team and supporting them, as opposed to I fancy going to a game of football.

I have been to games as a neutral many times and here are a few samples Man U v Tottenham, Birmingham v Leicester, Man City v Oldham, Sheff Wed v Tottenham, Birmingham v West Ham, Doncaster v Brentford, Stockport v Darlington, Oldham v Oxford, Bolton v Preston, Oldham v Blackburn, Sheff U v Hull....and loads more.

You watch games on the TV so why not go and see a game live. A Coventry match always takes priority mind unless it's at Sixfields.
 

Houchens Head

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"...a man of the cloth ...." "....quite a cathartic experience..."? What has being a Roman Cathartic got to do with it? :thinking about:
 

dongonzalos

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For me it is a bigger issue.
Not really talked about in the article,
but just made me think about it.
Kids will support the top teams as well as Cov when they are kids.
However over time as they get older going to the Ricoh Cov will become their main club.
This is not going to happen over the next 5 years and that chunk from 8-15 will more than likely be completely lost to the big clubs. Such a shame and will be a real issue for the future owners of the club.
I a assume SISU are aware of this but are not too concerned as it is a long term problem so will not impact on them.
 

Nick

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This has happened for years, when I was at school there were more Man Utd / Liverpool shirts than city.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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So the news is "cov fans" are going to watch Villa to see top flight football?

In my view, a very good piece that highlights what this ridiculous exile is doing to our club.

But I guess, as with everything in this saga, each person will view it according to their own preconceptions.
 

Nick

Administrator
Yes and my point was that we have always lost fans to the big clubs when we were at the Ricoh and HR. It just makes it a harder job for parents at the minute to keep them interested :(
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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Yes and my point was that we have always lost fans to the big clubs when we were at the Ricoh and HR. It just makes it a harder job for parents at the minute to keep them interested :(

That is indeed true.

My worry is that as it drags on, it'll become a harder job for the parents to stay interested.....
 

RoboCCFC90

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I am sorry but if you are truly Sky Blue you'd never set foot in Villa park no matter the circumstances.
 

edgy

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Couldn't think of anything worse to do in terms of support. I'd rather buy 10 sixfields season tickets than choose to go to the Villa to watch a neutral game.
 

Ashdown1

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This has happened for years, when I was at school there were more Man Utd / Liverpool shirts than city.

So are you saying that the Sixfields debacle won't be losing us young supporters or no more than we always used to lose to big clubs??
 

RoboCCFC90

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So are you saying that the Sixfields debacle won't be losing us young supporters or no more than we always used to lose to big clubs??

It could be a factor but what Nick is saying is that this was common previously it's not completely new and unheard of.
 

Spionkop

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This bit from Andy's article is important. The Telegraph has taken some flak at points over the past months, but those lines and a few others buried in the article are perhaps the strongest expression yet from the Telegraph about this farcical Northampton episode. Andy Turner's comments spell it out. But I fear it is futile. We are talking about Sisu. They don't do conciliatory gestures. They 'batter people in court.' Stuff the supporters of CCFC. They don't give a damn. Any CCFC supporter who goes to Sixfields should think long and hard. Support the team away.
A decent article, a touch of humour, tongue in cheek, but serious points made. Well done Andy Turner.

"The reality is the club could go back this weekend. They could show willing, make a huge conciliatory gesture to their business adversaries as well as their customers, and win back thousands of fans in body at least, if not in mind."
 

RoboCCFC90

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Can't he speak for himself, has he got a parrott??

Yes he can when it's a valid argument, not when your digging to turn another thread up on it's head.
 

Nick

Administrator
So are you saying that the Sixfields debacle won't be losing us young supporters or no more than we always used to lose to big clubs??

That is why I put it is a harder task for the parents to keep them interested.... Of course it will make a difference, but the whole losing fans to bigger clubs is nothing new at all. This was when we in the Premier League when I was surrounded by Glory Fans at school, I bet it worsened in the Championship and even more in League One.

I do think a lot of it is down to parents also when it comes to kids supporting teams.
 

Ashdown1

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Well the 7 kids that came regularly with me and a couple of mates haven't been to a single game this season and that will be replicated all over the fanbase amongst parents who won't attend Sixfields. I'd guess that amounts to thousands, whether they will follow another club or come back to the City in time remains to be seen. If this shit drags on for 5 years though I'm pretty sure CCFC parents and kids will turn their back on it once and for all.
 

Nick

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Well the 7 kids that came regularly with me and a couple of mates haven't been to a single game this season and that will be replicated all over the fanbase amongst parents who won't attend Sixfields. I'd guess that amounts to thousands, whether they will follow another club or come back to the City in time remains to be seen. If this shit drags on for 5 years though I'm pretty sure CCFC parents and kids will turn their back on it once and for all.

Exactly, that is down to the parents isn't it like I said?
 

skybluelee

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I am sorry but if you are truly Sky Blue you'd never set foot in Villa park no matter the circumstances.

When will you get it that no Villa fan gives a fuck about Coventry? By continuing the pretence that they are our rivals is making you look silly.
 

Nick

Administrator
No, it's down to the clubs owners !!

Oh here we go.

Take them to away games to keep them interested.

Kids don't care whether they watch their heroes, they don't care about politics they just want to see their version of Robbie Keane and Peter Ndlovu.
 

AndreasB

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I would go to Villa if I were you then. If you cant bring yourself to go to Sixfields and support the team, you may as well go and support someone else.Its only a bit of fun on a weekend after all. The biggest load of bollocks in football is that Shankly quote about it being more important than life etc
 

Nick

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Lets not turn this into another sixfields thread..... Boring and it is the same old...
 

Moff

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I would never go to see another team, unless mine no longer existed, and whilst it does they are my team, and the one and only team I would go and support, or watch.

I personally would go and watch another team in another sport, and NEVER another football team.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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I would go to Villa if I were you then. If you cant bring yourself to go to Sixfields and support the team, you may as well go and support someone else.Its only a bit of fun on a weekend after all. The biggest load of bollocks in football is that Shankly quote about it being more important than life etc

Tell that to Juventus fans
 

RoboCCFC90

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When will you get it that no Villa fan gives a fuck about Coventry? By continuing the pretence that they are our rivals is making you look silly.

I never said they did. However if Brimingham fans continue to have issues with their Club do you think your logic is acceptable so they can say "Oh well we are in the Championship, they don't give a fuck let's go and watch Villa." People who were bron in the late 80's and 90's will know Villa to be one of our worst rivals because that's the only team we consistently played season after season. By not using your brain it is making you look silly.
 
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The Gentleman

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I would never go to see another team, unless mine no longer existed, and whilst it does they are my team, and the one and only team I would go and support, or watch.

I personally would go and watch another team in another sport, and NEVER another football team.

England?
 

The Gentleman

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I am sorry but if you are truly Sky Blue you'd never set foot in Villa park no matter the circumstances.

Ah, the old "your not a true Sky Blue Fan". My office is in Brum and if one of my lads (who was a Villa fan) said I have a spare ticket for a game against Arsenal (who are the team I would most watch in the PL), I would go along. Does those circumstances mean I am not a true 'Cov Fan'? Sometimes I think you need to choose your words more carefully.
 

AndreasB

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Or indeed Liverpool or Bradford City fans

eh? You dimwits. Those tragedies were due to poor safety and policing. It doesnt make football any more important because people died at a football match in the 1980s. In fact it does the opposite - puts into perspective what a waste of life whilst people were meant to be enjoying a leisure activity.
 

skybluelee

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I never said they did. However if Brimingham fans continue to have issues with their Club do you think your logic is acceptable so they can say "Oh well we are in the Championship, they don't give a fuck let's go and watch Villa." People who were bron in the late 80's and 90's will know Villa to be one of our worst rivals because that's the only team we consistently played season after season. By not using your brain it is making you look silly.

I have supported the club since 1983. At no point during the 80s and 90s, despite us both being the only West Midlands clubs in the top flight, did Villa ever care about us or regard us as big rivals. It was embarrassing listening to "Shit On The Villa" on the West Terrace, its even more embarrassing to hear it sung at games now we are in Division 3.

FWIW I have no interest in watching any side play (other than the odd Weymouth game) other than Coventry as I would rather pull out my finger nails than watch football as a neutral, but certainly wouldn't regard watching Villa in any lesser terms than anybody else.
 

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