johnniericoh
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If all £2.5m if apportioned across say just 35 players = £1,375 per week which is about the average for this league
excludes coaching staff, manager, transfer fees etc.
looks tight to me
2.5 million to run the whole club including things like pre season trips and anything else ie "lick of paint at the trainning ground". According to Mowbray
Other clubs talk about players budgets not the whole club budget. I would guess there maybe a difference
I don't know how people know. That's why I am asking?
I don't know how Mr Waggot knows that ours is a top six budget.
By the sounds of it you don't know either?
Does anybody know how we know this information.
I think you are probably wrong Nick I can't see SISU paying fans of other clubs to say what our budget is.
That's up there with people thinking the CET are making up that they speak to SISU sources. Or if someone posts in here a lot about the future of the club they love, they are either employed by SISU or the Council.
It's got to be recorded somewhere because of FFP.
Would be interesting to see it. If that then means it's viewable to all clubs
I wasn't talking about their fans I was talking about their chief exec who seems to know ours and also states theirs is top ten and ours is much more.
I haven't claimed to know exactly how have I?
The sisu but was clearly sarcasm as the way people are talking is that waggot is making it up.
I know that the club say it is a top 6 budget.
I am asking how they know. Is everyone's budgets listed somewhere?
I wasn't talking about their fans I was talking about their chief exec who seems to know ours and also states theirs is top ten and ours is much more.
I haven't claimed to know exactly how have I?
The sisu but was clearly sarcasm as the way people are talking is that waggot is making it up and trying their hardest to disprove that we could possibly have a top 6 budget. Maybe you should call the Negative Police?
Isn't FFP also worked out on the previous seasons accounts? If so presumably the budget figures are always a season behind? So if so when SW said we have a top 6 budget does he mean last season we had a top 6 budget?
No you never said you knew how and you clearly don't know how.
Kieran Crowley has also confirmed that he's seen the league documents and ours is in the top 6. No ones budget is listed anywhere in public.
The problem is there will be one or two (Wigan - parachute payments, sheff United, for eg.) who will have the significantly high budget for the league and I imagine from 4th-14th there will only be £100-300k difference.
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Has someone said Waggot has made it up? I would be surprised if he would make something like that up.
No you never said you knew how and you clearly don't know how.
I am more interested in seeing the budgets for all the teams and intrigued on how everyone knows each other's budgets.
So your reply probably didn't need the sarcasm to be fair. It is quite a reasonable question how do we know where our player budget sits in relation to other teams?
Cheers Stu
So there are league documents that list it?
Do you know are they only available to the clubs themselves?
So what's your point? I never claimed to know how they know but you keep going on about me not knowing as if you are a schoolkid?
It's been suggested in the thread that clubs don't know each others budgets hasn't it? I was just showing they must do and I think there was a slight urge to try and prove Grendel wrong about the clubs knowing each others.
As far as I'm aware, yes to both of your questions.
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The question was asked before Grendel was involved. You mentioning that is the playground stuff.
My point about you not knowing the answer? I was hoping you may have read between the lines but you aren't so I will be more direct....
Thanks for your sarcasism it's appreciated, but it is clear you don't know the answer to question so I would rather hear from someone not speaking bullshit sarcasism who does know the answer. Cheers
Thanks that's a shame would have been a very interesting document to see and then look at at the end of the season to see how people faired on the wages spent.
Do you know is it player budget alone that is listed
Pretty sure the links I posted did help and were very much on topic and does help confirm our wage budget is likely to be top 6 and that other clubs also say "our budget is top 10". One of them also talks about the FL benchmark which I assume is the document the clubs see.
Not all of my posts are aimed directly to you, pipe down with the high opinion of yourself.
Anyway, I had better not say too much in case you tell Simon Gilbert on me.
Again as far as I'm aware yes, as that's what gets measured via the SCMP for FFP.
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Pipe down with my high opinion of myself?
Oh the irony.....
Ok no worries I will do Chairman Moa
HE MUST STILL HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF BUGET LEFT ,HE HAS ONLY SIGNED 2 NEW PLAYERS, AFTER AT LEAST 6 LEFT FROM LAST YEARS TEAM Im sure he will sign a striker for a fee and anther on loan.
What's Kieran Crowley's job?
Nearly as ironic as you preaching about people being negative about the football club I guess.
Head of Communications at CCFC
Nearly as ironic as you preaching about people being negative about the football club I guess. Would have been like heaven for some if Waggot was lying and we didn't have a top 6 budget.
He would be crazy to lie about something like that.
Would be very interesting to see what budget all the teams have and how they perform.
I agree he would be crazy but it doesn't stop people from suggesting it is bollocks (that is not me saying you have).
I don't think Wage Budget be the be all and end all, yes it would help but it could be a big budget spent badly or a little budget spent well.
Pretty sure the links I posted did help and were very much on topic and does help confirm our wage budget is likely to be top 6 and that other clubs also say "our budget is top 10". One of them also talks about the FL benchmark which I assume is the document the clubs see.
Not all of my posts are aimed directly to you, pipe down with the high opinion of yourself.
Anyway, I had better not say too much in case you tell Simon Gilbert on me.
I had a quick google of FL Benchmark and couldn't find any reference to it but i did find something on UEFA benchmark for clubs who have qualified for europe. I didn't click on the link but it looked like that doc was available publicly.
I agree he would be crazy but it doesn't stop people from suggesting it is bollocks (that is not me saying you have).
I don't think Wage Budget be the be all and end all, yes it would help but it could be a big budget spent badly or a little budget spent well.
Or suggesting people have agendas
Just for clarification all clubs know what each one has in terms of revenue and thereby their player budget. The FL collects all the revenue figures from the clubs and publishes it for them all to see - the names of the other clubs are deleted but it doesn't take too much detective work to work out who most of them are. The report is published in bar chart format showing the different areas of income for each club ie ticket sales, owner investment, off field income etc. At an SCG meeting (March I think) Fisher was showing this to the meeting and CCFC was in about 8th place from memory. Obviously this shows revenue received, it does not show amount actually spent on wages etc and Waggott did admit during the meeting that we did not spend our full allowed allowance, keeping around 5% back. This is a confidential internal document for the FL clubs which is why CCFC cannot publish it - not even sure if Fisher should have been showing it but he was trying to prove a point about off field income and why we needed our own stadium etc etc
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