I spoke about it's business case. The emotional and moral stance is another thing I didn't address, but shall when I get to work. However, don't put words in my mouth. I played for Coventry Rugby Club; and still have - for example - a signed copy of David Duckham's last game programme for the club hanging up in my house. I wouldn't wish for any harm to come to them whatsoever. But that doesn't stop me taking a business judgement on Wasps' intent; whether I like it or not
This is a wholly different situation to the CCFC move to Northampton. To compare the two is to compare apples to Bombay Mix...
They are both snacks.
Just because they have moved before, doesn't necessarily make it right to keep moving them does it? and yet further and further from their traditional fanbase.
No-one here approves of Wasps or anyone else relocating here, but surely no-one in their right mind would suggest that people should be just as up in arms about it as when we were taken to Sixifelds.
Regarding the rugby, what are the realistic chances of Coventry getting the the prem in the foreseeable future? Probably slim as the set up in rugby seems to limit this. However, If wasps was to become Coventry Wasps (as a merger) thus creating an identity with the local community. Cov RFU would continue to play a team in the lower leagues as they are already doing but as amateurs. Identity remains, new capital is brought in the city. Butts would probably be kept for reserve team fixtures, Cov amateurs fixtures, Wasps women and training facitlites for the rugby.
It is feasible.
And ultimately, it could benefit all the cov area including CCFC.
I can not help thinking that the CCFC owners have misjudged things hugely over the last 3 years.
No-one here approves of Wasps or anyone else relocating here, but surely no-one in their right mind would suggest that people should be just as up in arms about it as when we were taken to Sixifelds.
Seriously? As Coventry Football Club might not get into the Prem we should move another club in and sack ours off.
Well .. If SISU been more professional and business like and had played it right by making a realistic offers, we would not have The Wasps scoping around.
Ok SISU.. Chop! Chop! ... time to build a new stadium in Coventry as you promised.
If Wasps do get a share, can't see the CCC rejecting any of SISU's plans for CCFC to build in Coventry.
I can't see why our fans did not expect this could happen instead of blindly calling the Ricoh a white elephant without football. Even if it isn't going to be the Wasps it would be someone else.
Believe it or not buying the Ricoh is a very good investment and if it ever came on sale publically it would be very interesting to see what offers they would get.
I am wondering the fact that a new train station is built at the stadium has swayed the Wasps interest as it may make the stadium easily accessible for Rugger fans to get there from London.
That's not what I'm saying.Seriously? As Coventry Football Club might not get into the Prem we should move another club in and sack ours off.
They are both snacks.
Just because they have moved before, doesn't necessarily make it right to keep moving them does it? and yet further and further from their traditional fanbase.
Can't we all agree to agree that we oppose the acl-wasps idea?
The opportunity we have is to at long last achieve fan unity. The Trust is now the only fans' group so they have a great opportunity to bring fans together and make our voice heard loud and clear.
That's not what I'm saying.
Rugby is a different beast to football. CRFC would retain its identity and tradition. I live in London and all the teams have done this down here Yet London Irish amateurs, Wasps etc have still got a very strong local presence.
Rugby at a top level is more of a franchise. Look at the way all the London clubs are dispersing. I'm saying that Wasps could move to Coventry without any major adverse affect.
Just my opinion.
I wouldn't expect ACL to sit still whilst SISU continue to threaten via the courts and make daft noises about a new stadium, but similarly I wouldn't expect the council to sanction a move that supports a franchise team into the area at the expense of two local teams, and the franchise side's local supporters.
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Regarding the rugby, what are the realistic chances of Coventry getting the the prem in the foreseeable future? Probably slim as the set up in rugby seems to limit this. However, If wasps was to become Coventry Wasps (as a merger) thus creating an identity with the local community. Cov RFU would continue to play a team in the lower leagues as they are already doing but as amateurs. Identity remains, new capital is brought in the city. Butts would probably be kept for reserve team fixtures, Cov amateurs fixtures, Wasps women and training facitlites for the rugby.
It is feasible.
And ultimately, it could benefit all the cov area including CCFC.
So to save me reading through 27 pages, has the Ricoh been sold or is it just a rumour that talks are taking place ... or neither?!
Well, it's a rumour that neither ACL or CCC have denied in their statements.
What pisses me off is all the "good business sense" crap that is banded about. We were told that the Ricoh was NOT FOR SALE but it seems that it IS for sale as long as it's NOT to the local football team. It's apparently OK to flog it to a franchise team 100 miles distant.
What pisses me off is all the "good business sense" crap that is banded about. We were told that the Ricoh was NOT FOR SALE but it seems that it IS for sale as long as it's NOT to the local football team. It's apparently OK to flog it to a franchise team 100 miles distant.
I thought ACL said it's not for sale?
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Exactly. If it's going to happen then give the opportunity to Cov Rugby Club. Local teams.
Well, it's a rumour that neither ACL or CCC have denied in their statements.
They won't deny it, it is applying pressure and it will still be spun to be SISU's fault
So let's do something about it. acl-sisu successfully created division among fans over sixfields so let's not repeat that and instead be united as fans in saying we are 100% opposed to the acl-wasps idea and we want acl-ccc to drop it. It was fans who created the pressure for the ricoh return (source: Mr S Pressley) and stopping wasps playing in Coventry would be a doddle compared to that
Not sure it would be a doddle Michael. If the price is right and ACL/CCC sell, then what can CCFC fans do about it? Will fans of other Rugby clubs care if Wasps move? I doubt it, as it is not unprecedented. Rugby competes with football for cash from TV, fans etc.. There is the Rugby WOrld Cup next year in this country - huge opportunity to expand the game, so the RFU would be all over this to shwocase th game and seize on a chance to expand into the West Midlands, with Saints and Leicester covering the East.
They won't deny it, it is applying pressure and it will still be spun to be SISU's fault
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