Match Thread Watford (h) (4 Viewers)

CCFCSteve · Sep 2, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thing is Robins executed that well against Ismael’s Barnsley a few years ago. Particularly with players ‘lacking in confidence’, it did surprise me to see us continually playing slowly from the back.

Yep. It was so frustrating as I thought we had the beating of them, just needed to stop putting teammates in the shit at the back and middle of the park.

What was frightening was watford were most dangerous from our long throws and corners !!! Again, we’ll get that sorted. Some sloppy passing by all the midfielders at various times didn’t help as they kept turning over the ball in dangerous areas. Just one of those off days.

Good time for a break. We’ve got some really good players, they just need a bit of time working on stuff together

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 2, 2023

Badge72 said:
That’s the switch Hamer used to do. The team need to learn that counter against the high press.

We again had MVE beating his man for pace quite easily but this would either be underutilised or he’d have to backtrack because of insufficient support.

JulianDarbyFTW · Sep 2, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
We again had MVE beating his man for pace quite easily but this would either be underutilised or he’d have to backtrack because of insufficient support.

MvE had to backtrack several times because Gooden and Wright both drifted over to the left and failed to offer him an option. Once we get that sort of thing sorted we could be ok.

While I'm on the subject of the forwards, thought Wright was a mixed bag today. Some great turns and runs, but also a lot of Bambi on ice moments and some poor decision making. I'm very hopeful that he'll click once he settles into the team a bit more.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 2, 2023

JulianDarbyFTW said:
MvE had to backtrack several times because Gooden and Wright both drifted over to the left and failed to offer him an option. Once we get that sort of thing sorted we could be ok.

While I'm on the subject of the forwards, thought Wright was a mixed bag today. Some great turns and runs, but also a lot of Bambi on ice moments and some poor decision making. I'm very hopeful that he'll click once he settles into the team a bit more.

Agree with that on Wright

Old Warwickshire lad · Sep 2, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Wilson was back to his Rocky days

Van Ewjik and DaSilva class

Fadz Lats average, Bobby Thomas put in one of the single worst CB performances I've seen in years

Eccles pants, Sheaf being Sheaf, some unreal moments some strange.

Kasey Palmer is a frustrating prick, does the hard stuff and cannot execute the final ball

Wright and Godden is better than Simms and Godden

Just a bit of a 'meh' start overall for us i feel

Think that pretty much sums things up. Nothing I can disagree with. Palmer did everything,and achieved nothing.

Boicey · Sep 2, 2023

Shame Wright didn't score amongst today's chaos.
Him and Simms need to score well this season and we need their confidence building.

fernandopartridge · Sep 2, 2023

CCFCSteve said:
Oggy had it spot on from what I heard, you need far better decision making when teams are pressing like that and to change it up. That should be coming from management

Go long now and then, get it down the channels, put them on the back foot so they can’t press in the same way.

A lot of young lads in there and a whole new defensive unit. This team will get better as they learn the system, each others strengths etc Already MVE looks like a different player from debut.

Robins said the same in his interview tbf

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AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 2, 2023

Boicey said:
Shame Wright didn't score amongst today's chaos.
Him and Simms need to score well this season and we need their confidence building.

Wright is providing assists to goals so that’s a positive.

NortonSkyBlue · Sep 2, 2023

pusbccfc said:
The difference between Godden and Simms is the goals. Both pretty average at everything else.

And goals is what the aim of the game is. Pretty fantastic

covcity4life · Sep 2, 2023

Would have been amazing if Simms got on end of ayari pass to score a 4th

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 2, 2023

For a laugh

JulianDarbyFTW · Sep 2, 2023

AFCCOVENTRY said:
For a laugh

It was comedy gold. The big screen replays of it got almost as many cheers as the goal itself.

I thought their keeper's positioning was very odd all game, tbh.

Nick · Sep 2, 2023

It was funny until Bobby Thomas wanted in on the action and set them up.

CCFCSteve · Sep 2, 2023

fernandopartridge said:
Robins said the same in his interview tbf

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Did Robins say if he told them to play it a bit longer when he could see their press causing us issues ?

Gibbo · Sep 2, 2023

My first game this year. 10 things

1. There is no point playing tippy tappy at the back if all you do is give the opposition time to settle and reorganize. If Wilson has no obvious pass, he might just as well bang it up - particularly with a big unit like Wright up front.

2.Tippy tappy at the back is going to put me in A&E with a cardiac arrest; I am too old for it.

3. Da Silva was caught out badly for the first goal

4. If you have 4 man midfield with Hamer, and remove Hamer, don't be surprised if the three that remain can't cope. It's about numbers as much as anything. Felt sorry for Palmer being asked to all the creative stuff. Sheaf was very quiet. Godden is not one for doing the donkey work. I'd consider a return to one up front

5. Godden has got away with a number of penalties in the past that scored despite not being in the optimum spot. Got caught out this time (their goalie was a big unit)

6. Wright is Dele Adebola's love child

7. It was actually the worst 3-3 I have ever watched. We gave them three goals and should have won 3-0.

8. From the start it was obvious their left wing was the danger man, yet he was left unmarked when Van Ewik went forward. Surely that was job number one.

9. Von Ewik clearly has lots of potential. So bloody quick plus freekicks plus throw ins.

10. I was glad when Bidwell came on. He's a grown up. I'd keep him for the next game.

djr8369 · Sep 2, 2023

Some of you morons calling Palmer a luxury player, claiming he never tracks back, and does nothing off the ball might want to dig into the stats a bit.

Joint highest tackles won, most duels and most duels won.

Few people see an audacious flick, have made a rash judgement on him and are now digging in.

fernandopartridge · Sep 2, 2023

CCFCSteve said:
Did Robins say if he told them to play it a bit longer when he could see their press causing us issues ?

I think he leaves it for the players to do the right thing, they're the ones making decisions at that level

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wingy · Sep 2, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Wilson was back to his Rocky days

Van Ewjik and DaSilva class

Fadz Lats average, Bobby Thomas put in one of the single worst CB performances I've seen in years

Eccles pants, Sheaf being Sheaf, some unreal moments some strange.

Kasey Palmer is a frustrating prick, does the hard stuff and cannot execute the final ball

Wright and Godden is better than Simms and Godden

Just a bit of a 'meh' start overall for us i feel

Scmiechles available for a short while I'd imagine.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 2, 2023

Did also puzzle me that we’re now into the habit of leaving nobody up for defensive corners

Gibbo · Sep 2, 2023

Basically for a lot of the time they played like they barely knew one another, which of course they don't. Posted it before but last Spring the first team included 7 with at least 2.5 years together (plus 3 loans plus Bidwell). That counts. It will take time

djr8369 · Sep 2, 2023

JulianDarbyFTW said:
While I'm on the subject of the forwards, thought Wright was a mixed bag today. Some great turns and runs, but also a lot of Bambi on ice moments and some poor decision making. I'm very hopeful that he'll click once he settles into the team a bit more.

Watford were very physical, hanging off him sometimes, of course he isn’t going to come out on top every time. Neither did Vik.

Sick Boy · Sep 2, 2023

Upon reflection, they're a decent side and a draw was probably a fair result considering how bad we were at times. This is definitely going to be a season of transition though, IMO.

Blind-Faith · Sep 2, 2023

Warwickshire lad said:
Think that pretty much sums things up. Nothing I can disagree with. Palmer did everything,and achieved nothing.

Been trying to find a way to sum Palmer up and this nails it. He was absolutely different class today, until the final ball/shot/pass and he messes it up.

If he could add that final piece to the jigsaw he would be playing in the PL, but at the moment he’s all bells and whistles which counts for nothing.

wingy · Sep 2, 2023

Gynnsthetonic said:
Just seen the penalty miss, I'm not having a dig at Palmer here but he should of buried that rebound, don't quite know how he ended up hitting it over the bar

It was at an awkward height from what I saw in the North stand.

Osabisa3256 · Sep 2, 2023

Gibbo said:
My first game this year. 10 things

1. There is no point playing tippy tappy at the back if all you do is give the opposition time to settle and reorganize. If Wilson has no obvious pass, he might just as well bang it up - particularly with a big unit like Wright up front.

2.Tippy tappy at the back is going to put me in A&E with a cardiac arrest; I am too old for it.

3. Da Silva was caught out badly for the first goal

4. If you have 4 man midfield with Hamer, and remove Hamer, don't be surprised if the three that remain can't cope. It's about numbers as much as anything. Felt sorry for Palmer being asked to all the creative stuff. Sheaf was very quiet. Godden is not one for doing the donkey work. I'd consider a return to one up front

5. Godden has got away with a number of penalties in the past that scored despite not being in the optimum spot. Got caught out this time (their goalie was a big unit)

6. Wright is Dele Adebola's love child

7. It was actually the worst 3-3 I have ever watched. We gave them three goals and should have won 3-0.

8. From the start it was obvious their left wing was the danger man, yet he was left unmarked when Van Ewik went forward. Surely that was job number one.

9. Von Ewik clearly has lots of potential. So bloody quick plus freekicks plus throw ins.

10. I was glad when Bidwell came on. He's a grown up. I'd keep him for the next game.

You must be joking bidwell was awful !!

shmmeee · Sep 2, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Did also puzzle me that we’re now into the habit of leaving nobody up for defensive corners

Surely stick MvE on the halfway line. I don’t see the point in Godden, he’s not going to win a foot race.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 2, 2023

shmmeee said:
Surely stick MvE on the halfway line. I don’t see the point in Godden, he’s not going to win a foot race.

Well today it was nobody!

clint van damme · Sep 2, 2023

shmmeee said:
Surely stick MvE on the halfway line. I don’t see the point in Godden, he’s not going to win a foot race.

After rinsing their wing back for pace in their first foot race MVE then started checking back when he received the ball, can't help but think he was under instruction to do so

Edit -think I've missed the point of Shmmees post!

djr8369 · Sep 2, 2023

On a positive note really pleasing to see MVE and Wright start to bloom. Shame the back 3, who let’s remember have been very good to now, had a ropey one.

SkyblueTexan · Sep 2, 2023

Nick said:
It was funny until Bobby Thomas wanted in on the action and set them up.

That backpass was so weak it seemed like he hadn’t eaten for days.

oscillatewildly · Sep 2, 2023

Desperately lucky point. No question whatsoever that Watford were the better team (slaughtered us on the break)
Never in a million years was that a penalty - Justice with the outcome!

Flying Fokker · Sep 2, 2023

Sound up.

covcity4life · Sep 2, 2023

Flying Fokker said:
Sound up.

Was best bit of game

Flying Fokker · Sep 2, 2023

oscillatewildly said:
Desperately lucky point. No question whatsoever that Watford were the better team (slaughtered us on the break)
Never in a million years was that a penalty - Justice with the outcome!

Oh great. Another realist.

Rugby Sky Blue · Sep 2, 2023

I though that was two fairly average Championship team's playing against each other today. Watford are in complete transition, they didn't look bad but you could tell they were still trying to get use to a new style of play, hence the own goal and losing the ball in dangerous areas a few times. I think today highlighted for me that we are similar and this season will most likely be a bit of a transition for us rather than the joys of last season.

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