We look poor (8 Viewers)

[fatso]

Most of our better form came when he went last season , he was amazing but past it

He was past it, I totaly agree,

But .... we havnt replaced his experience or talent with someone in their late 20's with 300 games under their belt.

You can see how nervous Thomas and Lats are without a commanding presence in the defence. Swap one of them for a top quality CH and it's a different story (imo)

Also, I can't understand why Kitching hasn't had a look in before yesterday. That's just crazy.

 

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[fatso]

So to be clear , lampard gets a 2 window pass

Only Doug can answer that.

One things nailed on though, we ain't making the F.A cup semis at Wembley or challenging the top 6 with this "Deck" no matter who comes and goes this window.

 

[Evo1883]

I'm not going to pursue this with you any further. Pointless when you skew things to endorse your views.

So we don't have a better standard of coach now ?

These guys coached chelsea and England and yet after 9 games we are getting worse , we've just gone through the best set of fixtures of the season with 3 wins in 9 and we are setting out like a team fighting for survival

I am not skewing anything

 

[Nick]

So we don't have a better standard of coach now ?

These guys coached chelsea and England and yet after 9 games we are getting worse , we've just gone through the best set of fixtures of the season with 3 wins in 9 and we are setting out like a team fighting for survival

I am not skewing anything

In fairness, you were going on that we were better losing 3-0 to Norwich than 2-1 and others saying losing to Derby was better than drawing with Millwall all based on shots on target.

Using your logic, it's best if we lose 4-0 and other team having 4 shots on target then winning 1-0 and them having 20.

The bias is embarrassing. We have been much poorer at the start of the season.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So we don't have a better standard of coach now ?

These guys coached chelsea and England and yet after 9 games we are getting worse , we've just gone through the best set of fixtures of the season with 3 wins in 9 and we are setting out like a team fighting for survival

I am not skewing anything

Still don’t think we’re a side in trouble?

 

[SBT]

Palmer played as a 10 or left side of the midfield 3 for us (7 times )

It was either or as a 10 wasn't it ?

My point is that if we let O’Hare and Palmer go without even attempting to replace both of them then it’s little wonder the squad is going backwards.

 

[Nick]

My point is that if we let O’Hare and Palmer go without even attempting to replace both of them then it’s little wonder the squad is going backwards.

I have a feeling asante was the O'Hare replacement

 

[PVA]

In fairness, you were going on that we were better losing 3-0 to Norwich than 2-1 and others saying losing to Derby was better than drawing with Millwall all based on shots on target.

Using your logic, it's best if we lose 4-0 and other team having 4 shots on target then winning 1-0 and them having 20.

The bias is embarrassing. We have been much poorer at the start of the season.

Depends if you're talking result or performance.

Obviously the Millwall result was better than the Derby result, but we played much better against Derby.

Clearly results are what counts, not denying that.

 

[SBT]

I have a feeling asante was the O'Hare replacement

Seems unlikely to me - has he played one game this season in O’Hare’s position?

 

[Evo1883]

In fairness, you were going on that we were better losing 3-0 to Norwich than 2-1 and others saying losing to Derby was better than drawing with Millwall all based on shots on target.

Using your logic, it's best if we lose 4-0 and other team having 4 shots on target then winning 1-0 and them having 20.

The bias is embarrassing. We have been much poorer at the start of the season.

We were shit when we lost 3-0 to Norwich and we were fucking worse yesterday .

Only difference yesterday was Norwich didn't take most their chances , that was the point and it was fairly obvious

 

[Evo1883]

Still don’t think we’re a side in trouble?

Give it 5 games and il let you know , we're about to get tougher fixtures than what we've just had

If we are going down the siege route like yesterday we are bang in trouble

 

[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

We look shit and the football is tepid and boring as fuck under Lampard, just as many predicted it would be.

I thought we defended well yesterday until the last 5 minutes but absolutely bottled it again with no back bone and strength.

For those that gave criticism to Robin’s on loyalty to formations, you’re in for an absolute treat with Lampard, he plays 4-3-3 (in reality is 4-5-1 in drag) and will not budge from it until the late stages of a game if we’re losing.

King had an absolute fucking cheek claiming this was the best deck ever, this team is utter dogshit and has nothing on the 2022-2023 team.

King, Austin, Dempster, Williams, and Dr Claire can all get to fuck.

Feeling more and more switched off by the week. It’s a chore to watch. Maybe football ownership isn’t as straight forward as dickhead Doug thinks.

Roll on going back to our usual of circling around the drain for relegation, for those of us that were here every week to remember.

 

[clint van damme]

So we don't have a better standard of coach now ?

These guys coached chelsea and England and yet after 9 games we are getting worse , we've just gone through the best set of fixtures of the season with 3 wins in 9 and we are setting out like a team fighting for survival

I am not skewing anything

I'm pretty much in agreement with all the points you've been making here over the last few months but 1 thing I will say is we need to give these coaches a bit more time before we can make a reasoned judgment on them.

As was pointed out earlier, they've not had a massive amount of time on the training pitch with the players due to fixture congestion, let's see how things pan out in the next couple of months.

But yeah, it's been underwhelming up to now.

 

[Evo1883]

In fairness, you were going on that we were better losing 3-0 to Norwich than 2-1 and others saying losing to Derby was better than drawing with Millwall all based on shots on target.

Using your logic, it's best if we lose 4-0 and other team having 4 shots on target then winning 1-0 and them having 20.

The bias is embarrassing. We have been much poorer at the start of the season.

Sorry I just seen that bottom line .

No , no we weren't

Pompey 4-1 , 10 man Cardiff, Norwich demolished us 2nd half .

Give me example of games that are worse than Pompey away , Cardiff 1st half and norwich second half this season

 

[Jamesimus]

We look shit and the football is tepid and boring as fuck under Lampard, just as many predicted it would be.

I thought we defended well yesterday until the last 5 minutes but absolutely bottled it again with no back bone and strength.

For those that gave criticism to Robin’s on loyalty to formations, you’re in for an absolute treat with Lampard, he plays 4-3-3 (in reality is 4-5-1 in drag) and will not budge from it until the late stages of a game if we’re losing.

King had an absolute fucking cheek claiming this was the best deck ever, this team is utter dogshit and has nothing on the 2022-2023 team.

King, Austin, Dempster, Williams, and Dr Claire can all get to fuck.

Feeling more and more switched off by the week. It’s a chore to watch. Maybe football ownership isn’t as straight forward as dickhead Doug thinks.

Roll on going back to our usual of circling around the drain for relegation, for those of us that were here every week to remember.

 

[pusbccfc]

So to be clear , lampard gets a 2 window pass

If Doug is so desperate for promotion, he'll want improvements by March. Not saying he'll be sacked but he'll be asking questions by then.

 

[PVA]

I'm pretty much in agreement with all the points you've been making here over the last few months but 1 thing I will say is we need to give these coaches a bit more time before we can make a reasoned judgment on them.

As was pointed out earlier, they've not had a massive amount of time on the training pitch with the players due to fixture congestion, let's see how things pan out in the next couple of months.

But yeah, it's been underwhelming up to now.

Agreed.

I didn't want Lampard and have not been impressed with what we've seen so far, but he does deserve time.

(unless he gets us relegated! )

 

[Evo1883]

If Doug is so desperate for promotion, he'll want improvements by March. Not saying he'll be sacked but he'll be asking questions by then.

Well by March we'll know wether we are in danger of relegation I'm sure

 

[clint van damme]

Sorry I just seen that bottom line .

No , no we weren't

Pompey 4-1 , 10 man Cardiff, Norwich demolished us 2nd half .

Give me example of games that are worse than Pompey away , Cardiff 1st half and norwich second half this season

Portsmouth away, worse performance of the season by a country mile.
I dont know how anyone could keep a straight face trying to argue otherwise.

 

[Evo1883]

Portsmouth away, worse performance of the season by a country mile.
I dont know how anyone could keep a straight face trying to argue otherwise.

I know that but does nick

 

[Nick]

Sorry I just seen that bottom line .

No , no we weren't

Pompey 4-1 , 10 man Cardiff, Norwich demolished us 2nd half .

Give me example of games that are worse than Pompey away , Cardiff 1st half and norwich second half this season

Pompey away was bad I agree.

Stoke away , Derby at home, Swansea at home, Preston Away all terrible. Swansea at home was terrible because the whole ground could see what was going to happen.

 

[Evo1883]

Pompey away was bad I agree.

Stoke away , Derby at home, Swansea at home, Preston Away all terrible. Swansea at home was terrible because the whole ground could see what was going to happen.

So performance wise you believe they were worse than what we are seeing now ?

 

[Nick]

I know that but does nick

Well yeah because I literally just said it. The same as I said it was on Lampard yesterday for not making changes.

Let's face it, the way you bang on Robins could have had us lose 10-0 but it wouldn't be that bad if they only had 10 shots on target because it would fit your bias.

 

[Evo1883]

Well yeah because I literally just said it. The same as I said it was on Lampard yesterday for not making changes.

Let's face it, the way you bang on Robins could have had us lose 10-0 but it wouldn't be that bad if they only had 10 shots on target because it would fit your bias.

*Mentioned Robins again

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I’m sorry but being battered away by the team who were bottom of the table is the worst result this season by a mile

 

[pusbccfc]

Well by March we'll know wether we are in danger of relegation I'm sure

If he's allowed some additions, by then there's no excuses. We shouldn't be close to the relegation zone.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I’m sorry but being battered away by the team who were bottom of the table is the worst result this season by a mile

it’s laughable to see the mental gymnastics being employed to claim otherwise.

 

[Nick]

So performance wise you believe they were worse than what we are seeing now ?

Swansea was fucking terrible. Stoke was terrible. Sheff Weds was bad because of again something the manager should have done but didn't.

It depends which you want to compare, the nonsense about Derby at home and losing being better than Milwall is embarrassing. Yesterday wasn't even that bad and Lampard should have brought Asante off to kill the game towards the end.

Let's not pretend we have gone from promotion contenders to relegation in how we play in the last few weeks, we have been fucking shit all season. Take your blinkers off and you might see it.

 

[Nick]

*Mentioned Robins again

That's your whole point you are trying to get at. Do you think people are stupid?

 

[Nick]

it’s laughable to see the mental gymnastics being employed to claim otherwise.

Who is claiming otherwise?

Again, you don't actually have a point of your own you just jump on for likes.

 

[PVA]

Derby at home we actually played well, we largely battered them and they only had 3 shots all game and scored 2 goals from 1 shot on target

 

[Evo1883]

Swansea was fucking terrible. Stoke was terrible. Sheff Weds was bad because of again something the manager should have done but didn't.

It depends which you want to compare, the nonsense about Derby at home and losing being better than Milwall is embarrassing. Yesterday wasn't even that bad and Lampard should have brought Asante off to kill the game towards the end.

Let's not pretend we have gone from promotion contenders to relegation in how we play in the last few weeks, we have been fucking shit all season. Take your blinkers off and you might see it.

How do I discuss matches with somebody who thinks the way we play is irrelevant and stats mean nothing ?


Sub though am I right

 

[Evo1883]

That's your whole point you are trying to get at. Do you think people are stupid?

I think many on here are fucking stupid yes

 

[shmmeee]

Lampard will take us down.

He’s been a terrible appointment and I don’t see why you give someone time and money when they’ve taken the team backwards and shown no ability to improve results whatsoever and have no track record to give you confidence he can

His team selections are bizarre, he’s incapable of motivating players, the football is shit, he clearly doesn’t give a fuck about is either.

The bizarre insistence he’s a tactical genius who is just let down by terrible players is justified from people who backed him and frankly now look silly. The players aren’t great but they’re far better than they’ve shown under Lampard. he’s not a tactician and he’s not a motivator. He’s just a celebrity out of his depth.

Waste some more money and time on him if you want in the naive hope he’ll magically become a great manager, but he’s clearly been a disaster appointment. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone before the start of next season

 

[Nick]

How do I discuss matches with somebody who thinks the way we play is irrelevant and stats mean nothing ?


Sub though am I right

How do you discuss something with somebody who just wants to make out losing a game under robins is better than drawing a game under lampard because they suddenly want to start wanking over XG if it can help them try and justify it?