Otis
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When you say "relieved," do you mean "pissed all over us?"
What the fuck has happened to England (3 Viewers)
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SBAndy
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Even though it was another game without a win, a lot more to be positive about last night. Saka starts over Sterling for me. Sterling looks to have lost a yard of pace which is limiting his effectiveness. Saka more willing to stretch the opposition which makes the space for Kane and Foden. Wing backs a lot more involved. Wouldn’t even bother taking Pope to the World Cup.
Terry Gibson's perm
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The press are finally starting to turn on Southgate and the fans are as well.
The problem will be if England get past the quarter finals the fa will think it’s all ok and stick with this bloke and we will be desperate to stop as he will never get a top job (I would be disappointed if he replaced Robins).
He doesn’t get the best out of a decent group of players.
The problem will be if England get past the quarter finals the fa will think it’s all ok and stick with this bloke and we will be desperate to stop as he will never get a top job (I would be disappointed if he replaced Robins).
He doesn’t get the best out of a decent group of players.
olderskyblue
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I think he’ll go after the World Cup of his own accord.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'm really hoping it is his last tournament for us. Never rated him, and even in the last tournament where he played slightly better, he went missing in the final. There isn't really a player for England I dislike more, and as we saw last night, we have other options that are better. Then again, we all know we have an abundance of attacking midfielders... Southgate will start him almost guaranteed though, which is really annoying.
stupot07
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He needs to play Foden in a free role, not stick him out on the right wing. He's a completely different type of player than Saka, he needs to float and find pockets of space.
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SBAndy
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Well those two behind the striker should be more central anyway rather than getting in the way of the wing backs.
I’ve been thinking about Foden today and whilst he’s supremely talented, I do wonder where he fits into the team. As one of the front 3 he has to score more, but I’m also yet to be convinced his playing style is compatible with Kane (part of my idea that Kane would have been a terrible signing for Man City).
Liquid Gold
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I don't like playing with wingers and wing backs.
I think the formation that suits our squad best is 4-2-3-1
You get 3 of the quality attacking mids in, stick Kane up front and tell him to stay there while letting the 4 defenders concentrate on defending.
The two in front you could have 1 shielding and one progressing. Rice and Bellingham would be my preference.
I think the formation that suits our squad best is 4-2-3-1
You get 3 of the quality attacking mids in, stick Kane up front and tell him to stay there while letting the 4 defenders concentrate on defending.
The two in front you could have 1 shielding and one progressing. Rice and Bellingham would be my preference.
Otis
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He would. He would have cocked up their system completely and I do agree on Foden. They are trying to pigeon hole him and it's hard to work out how he fits into the side at present. He's a fabulous player.
I think if you play Grealish or Foden, you have to give them a freer role.
Otis
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Has a good look to it doesn't it. They are both feisty and strong in the tackle too.
I assume the reason England don’t do this more often is the same reason we don’t at Coventry - our back four isn’t competent enough to deal with the opposition going forward. A back three makes that a lot easier to deal with.
Liquid Gold
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Agreed, but then we (city) don't play with wingers. England have some quality wide options that deserve inclusion.
When you play with winger and wing backs you surrender a lot of the middle. Teams can defend the width of the box and we end up with what we have not - backwards, sideways, backwards, sideways etc.
If you don't have adventurous wingbacks then a 4 is fine as you're actually increasing bodies at the back in a lot of situations and particularly if your defensive midfielder slots in.
skyblueeyesrevisited
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Southgate is stifling some of the best attacking talent we have had for years. Sooner he goes the better.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Dropping Sterling would help get our best creative players in their strongest positions in an attacking sense, but he's just never going to do it.
A two of Rice and Bellingham in front of a defence is also good, but I can see him picking another underwhelming favourite; Henderson.
We have some decent players but we're holding ourselves back big time.
Liquid Gold
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This is what I'd go for
Otis
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It's mad that Southgate didn't give Tomori an opportunity. Toney too. No more games now until the opening game. It's nuts.
The German game was like a friendly. What better time to give players another stab?
Southgate has already said he backs Mcgrath, so there was no need at all to play him in this. Or at least could have given them 45 mins each or 60/30.
The German game was like a friendly. What better time to give players another stab?
Southgate has already said he backs Mcgrath, so there was no need at all to play him in this. Or at least could have given them 45 mins each or 60/30.
Saddlebrains
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Would be this for me
Otis
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You see, I don't like Trippier on the left at all. He is constantly having to come back onto his right foot all the time and opposition sides identify that.
Shaw is much better I feel and can be just as much of a threat going forwards.
Liquid Gold
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Not for me, a flat back 4 should have a natural left footer at left back.
I also don't like Foden wide, play him in the hole where he best influences games. It feels like you've shunted him over to force Maddison in.
Otis
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Yup. I always feel you don't get the best from Foden when he is forced out wide. Very capable there, but he is much better in a freer role.
Saddlebrains
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Fair
Trippier mainly in there for set pieces, dont feel theres anyone better in the squad frankly for that
Foden, yep fair, would swap for Grealish and start him instead of Madders
Liquid Gold
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I would have Grealish backing up Foden, he's the obvious sub there.
The wide slots for me would be shared out between Saka, Rashford, Sterling and Sancho
Otis
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Yup. Sancho and Saka for me.
Liquid Gold
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The key is to rotate them and always have fresh legs, it's a great 4 to pick from.
Problem is we are persisting with the 4-3-3 and it doesn't suit a lot of the players.
LastGarrison
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Looks like Walker could be out for the WC.
Nathaniel Clyde is currently checking his passport is in date.
Nathaniel Clyde is currently checking his passport is in date.
Liquid Gold
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Hopefully it forces him into playing a back 4 and not falling back on Walker as a RCB.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Watched him again last night and as v Napoli, not convincing. I think he does benefit from not being on the radar as much as some others.
Otis
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I think we have more than enough players for the position and we also know that Eccles can cover at right back if needed.
Saddlebrains
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I stuck a tenna on us to be knocked out the group stage 10/1
