Match Thread Wolves Freindly (3 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

We’re “forced” to do lots of things that are statistically safe which have a net benefit to society. This is no different. It’s just become a political weapon.

Not me making it political , its completely down to the individual should they want to get a vaccine .. just like the flu jab ..choice

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

Not me making it political , its completely down to the individual should they want to get a vaccine .. just like the flu jab ..choice

Thought you were off to the safari park?

 

[Evo1883]

Thought you were off to the safari park?

Am mate , in the car waiting for the missus.

 

[djr8369]

Not me making it political , its completely down to the individual should they want to get a vaccine .. just like the flu jab ..choice

No it isn’t you making it political. But the idea that it’s just about individual choice is a political one. Society doesn’t work if everyone makes their own choice about everything.

 

[Evo1883]

No it isn’t you making it political. But the idea that it’s just about individual choice is a political one. Society doesn’t work if everyone makes their own choice about everything.

Sorry i don't agree with you on this .

Nothing more to say Is there tbh

 

[djr8369]

Sorry i don't agree with you on this .

Nothing more to say Is there tbh

Fair enough lad it’s a long debate to get stuck into on a forum. I’d actually rather not “force” people but also think there’s not really a good argument not to aside from people don’t like being told what to do. Enjoy the day out with the Mrs.

 

[Sbarcher]

Not me making it political , its completely down to the individual should they want to get a vaccine .. just like the flu jab ..choice

Can you compare the situation with smoking?
it's not illegal to smoke, it's an individual choice.
However, for the benefit and safety of others, you cannot smoke in an enclosed area, pubs, restaurants etc.
Is this not the same philosophy for the vaccine?

 

[long way home]

Research from reliable sources on all aspects is the key to making any individual decision. By looking at the results of clinical trials and studies you will come to your conclusion from the information you gathered not heard. Then you can say as an individual I made an independent decision for myself.

Anything else outside a certain category no matter your vaccine status your decision is or was based on manipulation or pressure placed by any outside source. If you are in that position, then to ridicule or judge someone in a different status, is a bit like the pot and kettle saying.

It's not a simple situation that's certain and its a life changing experience, but In the end we all have to find the best way to navigate through this and at some point all come together without fear of each other. In time a question on a vaccine will not be asked or put as a prerequisite to share company. Research, testing and medical advancements will bring more understanding and normality will resume it whatever form you decide.

My decision is 2 fold I will not ask anyone a personal medical question. And secondly will respect others decisions they make and rules they set on vaccine status.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That was actually quite a fascinating interview. Loved his comments about Jones

Yep that’s great thanks for sharinhb

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Maybe lay of the Ben Shapiro YouTube channel for a bit.

It shows a lot that you think you have the moral highground.

 

[RegiswasGod]

Anyhow..... Where was Bright?

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

It's nothing to do with culture war what on earth are you talking about , have you lost the plot ... People should be given a choice ...it's as simple as that

Yes it is a choice for the individual to make, it Is also a decision for the organisation/governing body to set the guidelines on what is the policy and procedure. Nobody is free in any society to do what they want, there are repercussions If guidelines/laws are not followed.
Those that make the choice to not wear a mask do so at the risk to others as well themselves.

 

[KG7]

Pretty sure Bright was there in the warm up!


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[Samo]

It strikes me on reading the last few pages that there still seems to be a myth that being vaccinated protects others from catching the virus from you, it doesn't. You can be double jabbed but still catch COVID, carry it without perhaps even knowing it and infect others.
Vaccination prevents the virus from making you seriously ill, it doesn't stop you catching it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The manager of a football club can’t force his players to have the vaccine. That’s a personal choice and can only advise what he thinks is best, if he threatened them they’d have a strong case with the PFA.

He spoke well on that

 

[djr8369]

It shows a lot that you think you have the moral highground.

I don’t but the fact you think individualism is tied to morality is interesting. Rands ideas really took hold.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Looks like the gamble didn’t pay off then. Thought we’d get at least one game out of him.

Even Jarni sat in the stands for one game

 

[Skyblue_CP]

Anyhow..... Where was Bright?

I wondered this aswell

 

[djr8369]

Pretty sure Bright was there in the warm up!


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The video of them coming out is still on Instagram and doesn’t look like he was.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I am well and truly shocked

Nobody could have seen this coming

Ironically one person did. Dido Harding

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

He spoke well on that

Yes I thought so, it’s a difficult predicament for managers, especially if they’ve had someone affected…

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Santa?

What, he graces us with his presence one day a year?

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

Perhaps he's being ear marked for the big one on Tuesday

 

[Sick Boy]

Have mixed views. Know someone who had a really bad allergic reaction to a jab in the past where they had to call an ambulance etc. Think he will eventually get the jab but is understandably scared. Also, the distrust from certain communities is understandable.

That being said, although it's a "personal choice", the level of vaccine take-up will effect the outcome for everyone. So in that regard, it's not a completely personal choice - effects us all.

I love it when people infer that they are an "alpha male" on the internet, proper gives me the horn.

Hahaha yeah trying to label yourself as that means that you’re anything but

 

[better days]

Pretty sure Bright was there in the warm up!


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I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course

That wouldn’t of gone down very well with his manager and teammates, fine him and hope he learns (!)

 

[SBT]

I've seen some shite on this forum, but this is well up there.

How so?

 

[SBT]

I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course

It’s his own personal choice what he does with his body

 

[olderskyblue]

I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course

Thought kick off was 3pm?

 

[shmmeee]

I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course

We’ve all done that with an early kick off. Settle down to watch the game and realise it’s halftime already.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Were there not some others above suggesting fines or similar? I agree with you it’s a problem if it leads to them missing games down the line.

If the vaccine totally prevented you from catching Covid, fining them for missing a game if they contracted it having refused a vaccine would arguably be OK.

But as it doesn't guarantee you won't get it it's not really enforceable because they could argue they'd have caught even if they'd had the vaccine.

 

[long way home]

Bright is going to push the patience of the staff, very unpredictable on and off the field. Not worth it in my opinion can win you games but this doesn't sound good if he wasn't given permission.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

Thought kick off was 3pm?

You know what . Thats probably the truth

 

[KG7]

The video of them coming out is still on Instagram and doesn’t look like he was.

I pointed out Bright to my nephew in the warm up, so if it wasn't him, I'm not sure who it was...

 

[shmmeee]

If the vaccine totally prevented you from catching Covid, fining them for missing a game if they contracted it having refused a vaccine would arguably be OK.

But as it doesn't guarantee you won't get it it's not really enforceable because they could argue they'd have caught even if they'd had the vaccine.

It’s all risk reduction though isn’t it? Studies suggest 90ish% reduction in risk of infection.