Terry_dactyl
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Tbf she wasn’t shouting from the roof tops or telling people that she’s better than them. If anything she was challenging herself.
I have encountered this perception of English people from outside the country.
Tbf she wasn’t shouting from the roof tops or telling people that she’s better than them. If anything she was challenging herself.Bit embarrassing and it’s people like her which lead people to think we’re like that as a country, which we’re not at all.
In Scotland I found that there was endless talk of England having won the World Cup in 1966. Not from English people mind you, but from Scottish people telling me that it's all English people talk about. In my experience lots of Scots would be going out of their way to prove how they aren't like English people while actually showing they have plenty in common, societally, culturally and otherwise.Bit embarrassing and it’s people like her which lead people to think we’re like that as a country, which we’re not at all.
Whether we’re religious or not, the country was built on Christian values.
I disagree. I think National identity is important and having a semblance of pride in your country is a good thing. We lose that and I think things could unravel quite quickly
Whether we’re religious or not, the country was built on Christian values. You could say over time these became British values. I wouldn't class myself as religious but I think if we lose those then we’ll be a worse country for it
there is a big difference between patriotism and nationalism, nationalism is a disease
I’d argue those values haven’t endured here because they’re Christian, they’ve endured because they’re conducive to the Western capitalist system that has made us a prosperous country. There’s very little difference between our values and those of our explicitly secular neighbours.I disagree. I think National identity is important and having a semblance of pride in your country is a good thing. We lose that and I think things could unravel quite quickly
Whether we’re religious or not, the country was built on Christian values. You could say over time these became British values. I wouldn't class myself as religious but I think if we lose those then we’ll be a worse country for it
Ooops! Momentary foray onto search engine and brain fog!Best temperature to lay floor laminate
You forgot religion. I’ve been blathering on about that too.A thread about WW2 and Tony is blathering on about the Empire and the English flag. Could not have predicted this at all...
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You forgot religion. I’ve been blathering on about that too.
I think as long as it's balanced and doesn't tip over into thinking we are exceptional just because of the country we're from. That way leads to dangerous nationalist lunatics and can prevent you from improving as you will not even consider another country'd way of life in superior is one respect or another.I disagree. I think National identity is important and having a semblance of pride in your country is a good thing. We lose that and I think things could unravel quite quickly
I spent ages trying to work out the cryptic message. At first I thought is was some short of wry comment that what I'd said had no relevance to the conversation.Ooops! Momentary foray onto search engine and brain fog!
Thinking back, the Union Flag was a sign of far right groups in the 70’s 80’s and beyond. It was powerful but for all the wrong reasons. This meant that some true patriots were embarrassed to fly the flag.Some of the negatives of German kids being taught that their nation was dreadful show with their unwillingness to show patriotism and their general unease when it comes to their flag .. despite a small period , Germany as a country has much to be proud of View attachment 31788
It's never a good idea to hammer home that you're ashamed of your country
I’m Sky Blue. If I want to fly a a flag it would be a Union Flag, that’s where I landed. Flags are used so much more than when I was young.I think a lot of people just don’t think that the St George cross represents them. It’s a Christian flag for starters and the majority of the country isn’t Christian, almost 40% at the last census claimed to not be religious at all.
Now now, don’t need to be unhinged to be in a therapist chair do youYou seem somewhat unhinged Tony - I do think the therapists chair beckons - perhaps you should say hello and wave goodbye for a while?
Now now, don’t need to be unhinged to be in a therapist chair do you
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