Eh? They’ve won 5 top flight titles abs have spent 89 years in the top flight
Six titles but three were before 1900 and the last was fairly recent in 1936
Enough to know they are knobs.How many have you met?
I think as late as the start of the 60's, Sunderland were the most decorated club in English football.Can you prove that?
in England - it clearly does. All this bollocks about hating each other never existed - it’s been whipped up by the internet it’s pathetic
Eh? They’ve won 5 top flight titles abs have spent 89 years in the top flight
Still 89 top flight seasons
It is worth remembering ccfc were found guilty of match fixing - well Hill was
Actually they have won six but when was the last one? 1936. And three of them were in the 1800s.yes they are in the top 10 of teams who’ve been in the top flight the most - have won 5 league titles and 2 F A cups
89 top flight seasons
For the Bristol City game? Before my time so you would have to help me on that one please.
When was the last one? 1936. And three of them were in the 1800s.
They all count of course unlike the Leeds ones under Don Revie, which were too long ago.
They blame us for them being religated twice.You said your reasoning for them being in the top ten in history was because they spent, within 10 clubs the most time on the top flight.
All the tables I’ve seen online from analysts and enthusiasts who look at footballing parameters do not have them on the top 10 of all time. They aren’t far off, but not in the top 10.
There is a hatred there from them. Read their forums. When I went to the 5-4 there was hatred and vitriol everywhere. It’s clearly not all of them, of course it’s not, but it’s there in some form.
This one has them 14th. Clearly not top 10.
And I am pointing out that you base your opinions on a selective use if statistics or facts.Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
And I am pointing out that you base your opinions on a selective use if statistics or facts.
Fugazi ???in England - it clearly does. All this bollocks about hating each other never existed - it’s been whipped up by the internet it’s pathetic
Why are Sunderland's titles in the 1800s relevant but Leeds' in 1960/1970s not?Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
lol rankings include global fan base and trophies won in the last 20 years
I’m genuinely fascinated what rankings could make Newcastle the 7th biggest ever club in England
Living in the area I can honestly say there's a good few that dislike us
In my lifetime Newcastle have clearly been a more successful club than SunderlandI’m genuinely fascinated what rankings could make Newcastle the 7th biggest ever club in England
Sunderland's were all pre 1936!In fact scrub that Spurs 5th? They haven’t won any trophies for donkeys years and have only 2 league titles
Why are Sunderland's titles in the 1800s relevant but Leeds' in 1960/1970s not?
In my lifetime Newcastle have clearly been a more successful club than Sunderland
What's with the 'er'?Er I’m saying that I’m the context of the discussion in terms of history Burnley have been a bigger team than Leeds and they Leeds have not been a force generally for half a century and weren’t either before the revie era
It’s not hard
Sunderland's were all pre 1936!
What's with the 'er'?
Not it's not hard to see that you exclude things that don't fit your argument rather than taking a balanced or objective approach.
Grandad was from Co. Durham and went to watch both of them on alternate weekends growing up. Nothing against that part of the world at all but the comments made about Hill decades after the event were really poor taste.
Also interesting that G thinks crowd size and history should get you a free pass to higher leagues. The type that shed tears for Derby getting punished for taking the piss but thought nothing of Bury going out of existence.
again where have I said a free pass - you do make things up
You just seem a bit disappointed that league tables don’t go in order of attendance or the Grendel ‘big club’ rank
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