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Wycombe vs Sunderland (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter PUSB-We_are_going_up
  • Start date May 21, 2022
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  • Wycombe

    Votes: 31 70.5%
  • Sunderland

    Votes: 13 29.5%

  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed May 21, 2022.
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Terry Gibson's perm

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #316
Grendel said:
Eh? They’ve won 5 top flight titles abs have spent 89 years in the top flight
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Six titles but three were before 1900 and the last was fairly recent in 1936
 
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Northeast sky blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2022
  • #317
Living in the area I can honestly say there's a good few that dislike us
 
Grendel

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #318
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Six titles but three were before 1900 and the last was fairly recent in 1936
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Still 89 top flight seasons

It is worth remembering ccfc were found guilty of match fixing - well Hill was
 
letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #319
Grendel said:
How many have you met?
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Enough to know they are knobs.
Had a go at me in a bar in Majorca when we were playing them first game of the season whole family trying to pick a fight with me and my 10 year old son good job we won that day they ran away with there tails between there legs.
wankers all of them.
 
rondog1973

rondog1973

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #320
Gint11 said:
Can you prove that?
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I think as late as the start of the 60's, Sunderland were the most decorated club in English football.
 
Gint11

Gint11

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #321
Grendel said:
in England - it clearly does. All this bollocks about hating each other never existed - it’s been whipped up by the internet it’s pathetic
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Grendel said:
Eh? They’ve won 5 top flight titles abs have spent 89 years in the top flight
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You said your reasoning for them being in the top ten in history was because they spent, within 10 clubs the most time on the top flight.

All the tables I’ve seen online from analysts and enthusiasts who look at footballing parameters do not have them on the top 10 of all time. They aren’t far off, but not in the top 10.

There is a hatred there from them. Read their forums. When I went to the 5-4 there was hatred and vitriol everywhere. It’s clearly not all of them, of course it’s not, but it’s there in some form.
 

rondog1973

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #322
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #323
Grendel said:
Still 89 top flight seasons

It is worth remembering ccfc were found guilty of match fixing - well Hill was
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For the Bristol City game? Before my time so you would have to help me on that one please.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #324
Grendel said:
yes they are in the top 10 of teams who’ve been in the top flight the most - have won 5 league titles and 2 F A cups

89 top flight seasons
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Actually they have won six but when was the last one? 1936. And three of them were in the 1800s.

They all count of course unlike the Leeds ones under Don Revie, which were too long ago.

Welcome to the land of Grendel stats.
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #325
Terry Gibson's perm said:
For the Bristol City game? Before my time so you would have to help me on that one please.
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Guilty from the FA of “erroneously influencing the outcome of a match”
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #326
Deleted member 9744 said:
When was the last one? 1936. And three of them were in the 1800s.

They all count of course unlike the Leeds ones under Don Revie, which were too long ago.
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Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2022
  • #327
Gint11 said:
You said your reasoning for them being in the top ten in history was because they spent, within 10 clubs the most time on the top flight.

All the tables I’ve seen online from analysts and enthusiasts who look at footballing parameters do not have them on the top 10 of all time. They aren’t far off, but not in the top 10.

There is a hatred there from them. Read their forums. When I went to the 5-4 there was hatred and vitriol everywhere. It’s clearly not all of them, of course it’s not, but it’s there in some form.
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They blame us for them being religated twice.
All they had to do was win the last game of the season to stay up.
Like someone else said them and Liverpool fans do feel entitled.
I say Entitled to fuck all.
 
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Gint11

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #328
This one has them 14th. Clearly not top 10.
 

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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #329
Gint11 said:
This one has them 14th. Clearly not top 10.
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lol rankings include global fan base and trophies won in the last 20 years
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #330
Grendel said:
Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
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And I am pointing out that you base your opinions on a selective use if statistics or facts.
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #331
Deleted member 9744 said:
And I am pointing out that you base your opinions on a selective use if statistics or facts.
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not really
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #332
Grendel said:
in England - it clearly does. All this bollocks about hating each other never existed - it’s been whipped up by the internet it’s pathetic
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Fugazi ???
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #333
I’m genuinely fascinated what rankings could make Newcastle the 7th biggest ever club in England
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #334
Grendel said:
Ive already pointed out to you that Burnley have had more top flight seasons than Leeds?
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Why are Sunderland's titles in the 1800s relevant but Leeds' in 1960/1970s not?
 

Gint11

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #335
Grendel said:
lol rankings include global fan base and trophies won in the last 20 years
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Its one source I know but it’s more depth than your ‘definately top ten in the history of the game’
 

Gint11

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #336
Grendel said:
I’m genuinely fascinated what rankings could make Newcastle the 7th biggest ever club in England
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to be honest that makes more sense than your Sunderland statement.
 

Moff

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #337
Northeast sky blue said:
Living in the area I can honestly say there's a good few that dislike us
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To be fair, I think the feelings mutual.
I'm a Coventry supporter from a family of Geordies so we aren't great fans of that part of the Northeast!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #338
In fact scrub that Spurs 5th? They haven’t won any trophies for donkeys years and have only 2 league titles
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #339
Grendel said:
I’m genuinely fascinated what rankings could make Newcastle the 7th biggest ever club in England
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In my lifetime Newcastle have clearly been a more successful club than Sunderland
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #340
Grendel said:
In fact scrub that Spurs 5th? They haven’t won any trophies for donkeys years and have only 2 league titles
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Sunderland's were all pre 1936!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #341
Deleted member 9744 said:
Why are Sunderland's titles in the 1800s relevant but Leeds' in 1960/1970s not?
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Er I’m saying that I’m the context of the discussion in terms of history Burnley have been a bigger team than Leeds and they Leeds have not been a force generally for half a century and weren’t either before the revie era

It’s not hard
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #342
Deleted member 9744 said:
In my lifetime Newcastle have clearly been a more successful club than Sunderland
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oh sorry I didn’t know the when you were born was tbd criteria
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #343
Grendel said:
Er I’m saying that I’m the context of the discussion in terms of history Burnley have been a bigger team than Leeds and they Leeds have not been a force generally for half a century and weren’t either before the revie era

It’s not hard
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What's with the 'er'?

Not it's not hard to see that you exclude things that don't fit your argument rather than taking a balanced or objective approach.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #344
Grandad was from Co. Durham and went to watch both of them on alternate weekends growing up. Nothing against that part of the world at all but the comments made about Hill decades after the event were really poor taste.

Also interesting that G thinks crowd size and history should get you a free pass to higher leagues. The type that shed tears for Derby getting punished for taking the piss but thought nothing of Bury going out of existence.
 

Sick Boy

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #345
…and the weird obsession with them goes on and on.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #346
Deleted member 9744 said:
Sunderland's were all pre 1936!
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Fun fact-that’s the last time a team won the top flight wearing red and white stripes
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #347
Deleted member 9744 said:
What's with the 'er'?

Not it's not hard to see that you exclude things that don't fit your argument rather than taking a balanced or objective approach.
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so the balanced approach being Burnley have had more seasons in ybe top flight and Leeds really have been an up and down team over the years

I mean let’s be honest you kept yabbering on about Jodi Jones claiming I knew what robins was thinking - you hardly had to be a mind reader to conclude that robins thought Jones was rubbish
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #348
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Grandad was from Co. Durham and went to watch both of them on alternate weekends growing up. Nothing against that part of the world at all but the comments made about Hill decades after the event were really poor taste.

Also interesting that G thinks crowd size and history should get you a free pass to higher leagues. The type that shed tears for Derby getting punished for taking the piss but thought nothing of Bury going out of existence.
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again where have I said a free pass - you do make things up
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #349
Grendel said:
again where have I said a free pass - you do make things up
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You just seem a bit disappointed that league tables don’t go in order of attendance or the Grendel ‘big club’ rank
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #350
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You just seem a bit disappointed that league tables don’t go in order of attendance or the Grendel ‘big club’ rank
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No I think a lot on here call clubs like Bournemouth tin pot. Don’t think I have

But given a choice you’d want surely a Sunderland than a Wycombe - the main difference this season has been the atmosphere generating partly by big away followings - was there anything more depressing than games against FGR and Bury when two men and a dog turned up?
 
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