Adam Johnson (5 Viewers)

SkyBlue_Bear83

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His sister has tried to start up a Justice for Johnson campaign. Its gone about as well as you would imagine.

How can you have a campaign for justice for someone who pled guilty???
Apparently they are appealing the verdict for which he pleaded not guilty but was found guilty, fucking pathetic
 

ranstone

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Yeah, remember this one. It's ridiculous isn't it and there is no consistency whatsoever.

Slightly different IMO .... she was age 20 and clearly a can short of a six pack, the law is different for men and women (in relation to having sex), if a girl is over 13 but under 16 and the man is under 24 then he has a defence in certain circumstances.
Even if it was the same offence, Johnson would be outside of this age anyway in other words he's old enough to know better.

He deserves every hour he spends in prison and the victim should fleece him of every £ he's got, particularly the £3 million he supposedly earnt after Sunderland knew what he'd done (debatable who actually knew at Sunderland !)
 

Nick

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Slightly different IMO .... she was age 20 and clearly a can short of a six pack, the law is different for men and women (in relation to having sex), if a girl is over 13 but under 16 and the man is under 24 then he has a defence in certain circumstances.
Even if it was the same offence, Johnson would be outside of this age anyway in other words he's old enough to know better.

He deserves every hour he spends in prison and the victim should fleece him of every £ he's got, particularly the £3 million he supposedly earnt after Sunderland knew what he'd done (debatable who actually knew at Sunderland !)

What about the teaching assistants and teachers?

Should the victim fleece him? Is she actually going to be mentally scarred for the rest of her life?
 

ranstone

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What about the teaching assistants and teachers?

Should the victim fleece him? Is she actually going to be mentally scarred for the rest of her life?

Not sure what you mean about teachers ?

perhaps not fleece him probably bad terminology on my part ..... but certainly enough to have a significant impact on his wealth, the reality is he will serve a relatively short sentence in a low risk prison (eventually), play football for the prison team, probably be a celebrity figure to some other inmates and then come out as arrogant as he went in.

Does she need to be mentally scared for he rest of her life to have been judged to have suffered ? aside of whatever happened with him it seems she is still suffering the backlash socially and was dragged through a court appearance at a relatively young age.
 

Grendel

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I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.
 

Otis

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I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.
Nope! Me neither. He had to go to prison, but where is the consistency?

Rape (Evans) is so much more a despicable crime and obviously Lee Hughes killed someone. I don't get it either.
 

albatross

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I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.


What??


This is all about Intent, continual grooming her knowing full well her age, no remorse and then not pleading guilty. Thats why its six years. judge deems it all premeditated and calculating.
 

Nick

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What??


This is all about Intent, continual grooming her knowing full well her age, no remorse and then not pleading guilty. Thats why its six years. judge deems it all premeditated and calculating.
Why do teachers get 2 years for full sex with pupils?
 

tisza

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Problem is Evans & Hughes should have had longer sentences rather than Johnson's being disproportionate.
 

hill83

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SEXUAL TOUCHING: Five years.

KISSING: Four months (concurrent).

GROOMING: One year (consecutive).

That's why it's 6 years.
 

Otis

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SEXUAL TOUCHING: Five years.

KISSING: Four months (concurrent).

GROOMING: One year (consecutive).

That's why it's 6 years.
Isn't grooming just as bad? Without the grooming the other two wouldn't happen would they?

If they had stronger sentences for grooming then that might stop the other things from happening. It's the grooming that leads to offences.
 

albatross

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Rolf Harris got less didn't he? They were as young as seven

I believe with Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall they had to be sentenced within the Law as to stood at the time the offences were committed, so probably applying 1970's and 1980's legislation rather than 2015
 

hill83

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Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?
 

Pipehitterz

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Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?

nobody said it was banter? strange?

equally suspicion, isnt guilt, and no pursuing usually means it wasnt true

anyways, back to the facts, absolutely staggering sentence taking many other cases into account
 

Macca

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I think the point being made is the huge inconsistency over a range of crimes not that the bloke deserves any pity
 

Otis

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Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?
Could it just be he typed 'hairy beaver' in his search engine and the wrong thing came up?
 

Nick

Administrator
I think the point being made is the huge inconsistency over a range of crimes not that the bloke deserves any pity
Exactly, there's no way he shouldn't have been sent down. But the sentencing isn't consistent is it?
 

Gazolba

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A better punishment would have been a massive fine which could have been seized from his football wages. Since he will now languish in jail, there will be no income to distribute.
 

LastGarrison

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A better punishment would have been a massive fine which could have been seized from his football wages. Since he will now languish in jail, there will be no income to distribute.

What????

So basically the rich can just buy there way out of prison????? Sounds just like the Thai justice system........
 

Paxman II

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It does in all fairness seem harsh. No responsibility seems to have been taken by the parents of this young teen or the girl herself. that's not excusing Johnson by the way - he has been an idiot. But the law is the law and must be followed even though we can find it inconsistent where it's values are attributed.
 

stupot07

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It does in all fairness seem harsh. No responsibility seems to have been taken by the parents of this young teen or the girl herself. that's not excusing Johnson by the way - he has been an idiot. But the law is the law and must be followed even though we can find it inconsistent where it's values are attributed.

Can't believe what I've just read here

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