The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (89 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Kingokings204

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So the choice for the wealthy White Anglo Saxon Protestant Tory members in the South East is between two plastic Maggie imitations. This country really is truly fooked. Still at least Gove and Johnson are history.

Can understand gove. But what's Boris ever done wrong? I like the guy. Honest and a bit simple. Although plays on it.
 

Monners

Well-Known Member
Somewhat bizarrely I met Boris at Northampton station tonight. Clearly wasted no time starting his new career on the Midlands comedy circuit - soon to be joined by his former mate Gove.
 

skybluejelly

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Somewhat bizarrely I met Boris at Northampton station tonight. Clearly wasted no time starting his new career on the Midlands comedy circuit - soon to be joined by his former mate Gove.

That's probably because Andrea Leadsom lives in Northampton...she is actually a really nice person and very down to earth.. She Was originally going to back boris but gove scuppered boris,so she took her chance .
 

Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
That's probably because Andrea Leadsom lives in Northampton...she is actually a really nice person and very down to earth.. She Was originally going to back boris but gove scuppered boris,so she took her chance .

I hope she gets it. Gove is a creep and Boris was meant to be going for PM but for reasons no one knows really he isn't standing so yes leadsom saw and gap and went for it and guess what she is in with a good shout. Fair play.
 

martcov

Well-Known Member
I vote for Andrea leadsom. Fresh face. Brexit supporter.

Speaks very well. She has a real chance.
Fresh face = unknown. Brexit = caused this crisis. Speaks well = Most politicians do ( that's their Job in Parliament). We need an election to decide who is going to lead us out of this crisis. If she is so good, the tories will win and she will have a parliamentary mandate for brexit.
 

martcov

Well-Known Member
I vote for Andrea leadsom. Fresh face. Brexit supporter.

Speaks very well. She has a real chance.

In reference to her BS in her CV:
“Because people add credibility. You know, when they think of senior investment officer, enormous responsibility for massive amounts of money, taking daily investment management decisions. And therefore speaking with some authority on those topics. Andrea Leadsom wasn’t that.

“She was a part-time assistant to the chief investment officer, working on special projects.”

Leadsom’s team released a summary of her CV which can be seen below and refers to her as a “senior investment officer”:

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Stephens said Prime Ministerial candidate Leadsom had “an important administrative job” but accused her of misrepresenting her role.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
Fresh face = unknown. Brexit = caused this crisis. Speaks well = Most politicians do ( that's their Job in Parliament). We need an election to decide who is going to lead us out of this crisis. If she is so good, the tories will win and she will have a parliamentary mandate for brexit.
Brexit caused this crisis?

We are not in crisis. Most countries in the EU are at crisis level or not far off though. Crisis will be when Juncker gets his federal Europe and we lose all rights.
 

Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
In reference to her BS in her CV:
“Because people add credibility. You know, when they think of senior investment officer, enormous responsibility for massive amounts of money, taking daily investment management decisions. And therefore speaking with some authority on those topics. Andrea Leadsom wasn’t that.

“She was a part-time assistant to the chief investment officer, working on special projects.”

Leadsom’s team released a summary of her CV which can be seen below and refers to her as a “senior investment officer”:

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Stephens said Prime Ministerial candidate Leadsom had “an important administrative job” but accused her of misrepresenting her role.

So basically you and others have no proof whatsoever. It's people character assassination because some people don't want her in. So they make up some piddly little thing about her CV just so gullible people like you go oh yeah she is false.

She has come out and denied these claims very vigorously, what else can she do. so you believe all the stories you want but at the end of the day she hasn't been caught out because she is still running and therefore she hasn't lied because if she had then she would have to pull out of the race due to lying. She is an honest working person alright politician so she will have some faults but that's life.

It's no secret more mps want Theresa May so all this is is just a few people trying to bend the truth slightly to suit. Sorry to break it to you but she is genuine just like Theresa May and may the best women win.

You carry on though believing she is an evil woman and she is hopeless. I doubt it will do much for you though.

End of the day she backed brexit and we all know the lies from the remain haven't stopped.

Where is this emergency budget? Where is the second Scottish refendum? Where is the interest rates rising? (Decreased yesterday) where is the next world war? I also saw all the big banks HSBC etc sign up yesterday to keeping in London. Another massive lie.

Just give it a rest now and let what will be, be. Give it a chance. Also try and help and make this a great country. We have. Great opportunity now if people actually saw it instead of putting the country down all the while.
 

Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
Fresh face = unknown. Brexit = caused this crisis. Speaks well = Most politicians do ( that's their Job in Parliament). We need an election to decide who is going to lead us out of this crisis. If she is so good, the tories will win and she will have a parliamentary mandate for brexit.

What crisis? There isn't one ffs. The most significant thing that has happened is the pound has dropped. Which just helps exporters and we don't get much for our pound for a short while. Oh big crying crisis time hey.

Think you should be a little more respectful when Greece actually are in a crisis and can't repay debts this month again and youth employment is over 50%. People rioting outside parliament and the whole country in discontent. That's a crisis Martcov.
 

clint van damme

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So basically you and others have no proof whatsoever. It's people character assassination because some people don't want her in. So they make up some piddly little thing about her CV just so gullible people like you go oh yeah she is false.

She has come out and denied these claims very vigorously, what else can she do. so you believe all the stories you want but at the end of the day she hasn't been caught out because she is still running and therefore she hasn't lied because if she had then she wild have to pull out of the race due to lying. She is an honest working person alright politician so she will have some faults but that's life.

It's no secret more mps want Theresa May so all this is is just a few people trying to bend the truth slightly to suit. Sorry to break it to you but she is genuine just like Theresa May and may the best women win.

You carry on though believing she is an evil woman and she is hopeless. I doubt it will do much for you though.

End of the day she backed brexit and we all know the lies from the remain haven't stopped.

Where is this emergency budget? Where is the second Scottish refendum? Where is the interest rates rising? (Decreased yesterday) where is the next world war? I also say all the big banks HSBC etc sign up yesterday to keeping in London. Another massive lie.

Just give it a rest now and let what will be, be. Give it a chance. Also try and help and make this a great country. We have. Great opportunity now if people actually saw it instead of putting the country down all the while.

You do realise we haven't actually left the EU yet don't you?
 

mrtrench

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Stephens said Prime Ministerial candidate Leadsom had “an important administrative job” but accused her of misrepresenting her role.

You do realise right that an administrative job in the front office of an investment bank doesn't mean she bought flowers for his wife and typed a few letters? Most departments in investment banks are full of extremely bright, organised and focused people.
 

Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
Odds on leadsom are slowly coming down. She will be very popular at grassroots level.

May still favourite however.
 

martcov

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Brexit caused this crisis?

We are not in crisis. Most countries in the EU are at crisis level or not far off though. Crisis will be when Juncker gets his federal Europe and we lose all rights.

We're not in a crisis ( Germany ).... Schäuble has put forward another 0:0 budget - despite putting aside 19bn € for integration of refugees ( including 6 bn € for dealing with the refugee problem at source ). Record employment levels. Employment set to rise though as more refugees get their status confirmed, but no panic as of yet.

Osborne has got leading banks to sign up to helping keep London as a finance centre - for now.

Three real estate funds have stopped taking investment. The pound is sinking.

If there had not been the brexit, people would be taking this as a crisis, but in brexit-speak there are 'minor adustments' and our 'exporters will profit' - short term.

Labour is imploding and the Tories are leaning to the right. You obviously have a different definition of crisis.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Being PM is not just about doing the Brexit deal, and in any case most of the leg work and serious negotiation on that will not be done by the PM.
 

martcov

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You do realise right that an administrative job in the front office of an investment bank doesn't mean she bought flowers for his wife and typed a few letters? Most departments in investment banks are full of extremely bright, organised and focused people.

“She was a part-time assistant to the chief investment officer, working on special projects.” Not a chief investment manager as she claimed. She was not controling large amounts of money, but had to deal with such things as 'personal'. She or her team are trying to push her as someone who can handle the financial problems which are occuring and others that may occur for the UK. An experienced wheeler and dealer at the helm. Still, in the wake of Johnson, Farage and Gove, that is relatively seen, 'peanuts' in the BS department.
 

Monners

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She doesn't live in Northampton. Last night was fun raiser for her campaign by the wealthy WASPs from South Northants (where she lives) and Daventry District - rich country folk and social climbers. Boris was guest speaker.
That's probably because Andrea Leadsom lives in Northampton...she is actually a really nice person and very down to earth.. She Was originally going to back boris but gove scuppered boris,so she took her chance .
 

martcov

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Being PM is not just about doing the Brexit deal, and in any case most of the leg work and serious negotiation on that will not be done by the PM.

which is true.....but you need a PM to set the pace. The Brexit deal will take many years of negotiations and employ many staff - all to an unknown outcome. What that costs and how much it distracts from dealing with other problems that come up cannot be calculated.
 

Astute

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We're not in a crisis ( Germany ).... Schäuble has put forward another 0:0 budget - despite putting aside 19bn € for integration of refugees ( including 6 bn € for dealing with the refugee problem at source ). Record employment levels. Employment set to rise though as more refugees get their status confirmed, but no panic as of yet.

Osborne has got leading banks to sign up to helping keep London as a finance centre - for now.

Three real estate funds have stopped taking investment. The pound is sinking.

If there had not been the brexit, people would be taking this as a crisis, but in brexit-speak there are 'minor adustments' and our 'exporters will profit' - short term.

Labour is imploding and the Tories are leaning to the right. You obviously have a different definition of crisis.
So you count yourself as Germany and say the £ is sinking. Says it all really.

Don't worry. Germany will have billions more to put in each year once we have left. That is unless they remove Juncker and forget about the federal EU that you, Germany and Juncker want so much.
 

mrtrench

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“She was a part-time assistant to the chief investment officer, working on special projects.. She or her team are trying to push her as someone who can handle the financial problems

If she worked at this level for Barclays etc. then she will be able to handle financial problems. Let me explain the way it works in the Front Office. Traders are supported by a number of teams full of bright people who understand finance every bit as much as the guy managing the position. Even the IT teams supporting the FO understand the products, the valuation and risk of the products and the trading strategies. Managing the EUR cut-over for the firm would be a senior position - she would have had to understand the impact across every dimension (including settlement and middle and back office impacts - not just the trading position); whereas a trader typically just manages one currency and/or one risk measure: currency; interest rate; credit spread and then three more desks to manage the volatility of these. This is not an exhaustive list - my point is that traders are engulfed in a single aspect of banking, support staff need to understand the big picture.

I'm not a Tory party member so I don't get to vote anyway. If I did my first choice would be that Cameron hadn't resigned and then probably May - so I'm no big fan. However I general dislike the widespread hyperbole and misinformation that gets pushed around the internet - mostly by people with no understanding of the issues or subject matter. I remember clearly Diane Abbott on the BBC giving out her views on LIBOR when it was obvious she hadn't the slightest understanding of it or even heard about it before the fixing scandal (she pronounced it LEE-BOR). I don't know why people cannot just keep their mouths shut and listen when they don't know about something.
 

skybluejelly

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She doesn't live in Northampton. Last night was fun raiser for her campaign by the wealthy WASPs from South Northants (where she lives) and Daventry District - rich country folk and social climbers. Boris was guest speaker.
i know where she lives ..i had dinner with her friday ..but i think you will find you cant get a train to towcester..maybe i should of said northamptonshire
 

Captain Dart

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Three real estate funds have stopped taking investment. The pound is sinking.
Similar happened in 2008, property prices recovered & how.
 

martcov

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So you count yourself as Germany and say the £ is sinking. Says it all really.

Don't worry. Germany will have billions more to put in each year once we have left. That is unless they remove Juncker and forget about the federal EU that you, Germany and Juncker want so much.
So you count yourself as Germany and say the £ is sinking. Says it all really.

Don't worry. Germany will have billions more to put in each year once we have left. That is unless they remove Juncker and forget about the federal EU that you, Germany and Juncker want so much.

No, not yet, but I am applying for German citizenship - as are others over here - but there is a waiting list, so I won't get it before the end of September. The pound is sinking.
 

Kingokings204

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No, not yet, but I am applying for German citizenship - as are others over here - but there is a waiting list, so I won't get it before the end of September. The pound is sinking.

Good luck to you. Thanks for coming on here and taking us how shit we all are and how much crisis we are in. Appreciate it

Will you leave us alone now then?
 

Monners

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i know where she lives ..i had dinner with her friday ..but i think you will find you cant get a train to towcester..maybe i should of said northamptonshire
Yep you should have. I have only lived in Northampton for 31 years so thanks for telling me something I already knew.
 

martcov

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Good luck to you. Thanks for coming on here and taking us how shit we all are and how much crisis we are in. Appreciate it

Will you leave us alone now then?

No I won't. These demagogues have possibily sent us on an adventure which could include the break up of the UK and send the country into a voluntary depression. I have never said you on here are shit. In fact, I have sympathy with all of you. I'm voting with my feet. We have seen what happens when people throw keys on the table, leave town thinking they are the only show in town and then go annoying everyone in the area. We, on here should see what could happen. Let's take control.... Who? I would guess that no-one on here has any control in this country. That belongs to the same elite as always. Nothing has changed there, but we are now divided.
 

martcov

Well-Known Member
Wasn't it down to a vote?

Who campaigned and convinced the electorate? Who landed with the power - or will land with the power? ( and who btw has legged it? ). Whatever happens places like Middlesborough and Sunderland didn't.
 

Nick

Administrator
Who campaigned and convinced the electorate? Who landed with the power - or will land with the power? ( and who btw has legged it? ). Whatever happens places like Middlesborough and Sunderland didn't.

Didn't both sides campaign?
 

martcov

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Didn't both sides campaign?

Yes, but did it change the power/ control? No. Either way would stay approximately the same. So, I don't agree that 'we' have our country back. One part of the elite has triumphed over the other. Just look at the characters involved. I was never really into national referenda and am now convinced that referenda, in questions such as this, a simple yes no resulting in a 17 to 16 majority and not all 4 UK countries voting the same way, are not the way to go. 52% have ignored the rights of 48% - and it would have been the same the other way round. In a parliament you can make compromises or you could maybe go back to negotiations again and again... Now we have gone a 100% in one direction - if anyone dares to pull the trigger ( the biggest mouths have legged it ).
 

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