What this transfer window tells you (13 Viewers)

[Calista]

Kind of a cleft stick really potentially short of players if they go potentially short of money if they don't. Perhaps Slade set the values with half an eye on needing to keep players not sell them. Perhaps the sort of clubs interested were never going to pay the price. Perhaps it was all talk. Perhaps they realise that if we do get relegated the players we have will be more affordable than bringing others in. Perhaps the value was right and the offers poor. Perhaps they got their timing wrong, bluffed and messed up. Perhaps they really did not want to sell or need to. Who knows

All plausible explanations, and naturally none of them indicate a competent plan to get us out of trouble

 

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

if we are in league 2 we need a new manager not new contract for slade.

Whichever league we are in he can fuck off he is useless.

 

[covcity4life]

Whichever league we are in he can fuck off he is useless.

i hope he turns it round but its not looking good

 

[covcity4life]

Exactly!!

He won't be remembered half as much for the 8th place as he will for the failure and will be remembered for taking us from top to bottom 4.


Simple fact is that after being top and then in the top 6 for so long and also 11 points clear of 7th, we should have never, ever have finished the season 8th.

absolute bullshit,. he will be remembered for having us dreaming,having us top, hacving us play good football and having us score lots of goals first anf foremost.

then there will be asterix of drop off and missing out on playoffs. maybe one about recruitment but cosnidering our owners that ones prob not worth looking into too much.

listen to youtself otis. you are actually saying someone who gets close and fails should be criticised more than someone who just fails.

 

[Grendel]

absolute bullshit,. he will be remembered for having us dreaming,having us top, hacving us play good football and having us score lots of goals first anf foremost.

then there will be asterix of drop off and missing out on playoffs. maybe one about recruitment but cosnidering our owners that ones prob not worth looking into too much.

listen to youtself otis. you are actually saying someone who gets close and fails should be criticised more than someone who just fails.

So Micky Adams is our best manager in the last 45 years is he?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

i hope he turns it round but its not looking good

No chance I would imagine we are big odds on to go down. I was reading people saying it's only 8 points madness.

I said that we will be down with 5 games to go and I stick by that around Sheffield united away

 

[Otis]

absolute bullshit,. he will be remembered for having us dreaming,having us top, hacving us play good football and having us score lots of goals first anf foremost.

then there will be asterix of drop off and missing out on playoffs. maybe one about recruitment but cosnidering our owners that ones prob not worth looking into too much.

listen to youtself otis. you are actually saying someone who gets close and fails should be criticised more than someone who just fails.

It is all very simple. Take off the earmuffs!!

Tony Mowbray this season had a clean slate. No games played, pre-season recruitment at hand.

Slade came in with us ALREADY in the bottom 4. He inherited a side that was already failing.

Slade may well now fail, but he had already inherited a failing side.

How is it compatible that a manager who comes in with us already in the bottom 4 can be compared to a manager who had us 11 points clear of 7th place and then failed?

 

[covmark]

absolute bullshit,. he will be remembered for having us dreaming,having us top, hacving us play good football and having us score lots of goals first anf foremost.

then there will be asterix of drop off and missing out on playoffs. maybe one about recruitment but cosnidering our owners that ones prob not worth looking into too much.

listen to youtself otis. you are actually saying someone who gets close and fails should be criticised more than someone who just fails.

Drop off?
It was a monumental fucking skydive.
Then he had the opportunity (no doubt with limits) to rebuild in the summer with a known budget. He fucked it up. It's a shame because I thought he was the manager to bring some good times back.

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[Otis]

Drop off?
It was a monumental fucking skydive.
Then he had the opportunity (no doubt with limits) to rebuild in the summer with a known budget. He fucked it up. It's a shame because I thought he was the manager to bring some good times back.

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Me too!

CC4L seems to think I really dislike TM, yet I really, really rated him until the most awful of slumps. Then at that point I got a bit annoyed with him, but was prepared to let him have another go at it this season.

In the summer he completely made a balls up of the recruitment and left us with a very poor squad.

For me Clarke and Beavon have strengthened us, which then just conjures up of just how bad were we before.

Venus was right on this. He may have come out with other stuff that was guff, but he said we are not good enough for League One and he has been proved to have been absolutely bang on.

Top scorer with 5 goals, silly goals given away, can't compete physically and only 4 wins to our name all season.

That tells you how bad a side we have. Clear as day.

Slade took over a very poor side with problems all over the field.

I am not sticking up for Slade, but he was given the job of miracle worker.

 

[covmark]

Me too!

CC4L seems to think I really dislike TM, yet I really, really rated him until the most awful of slumps. Then at that point I got a bit annoyed with him, but was prepared to let him have another go at it this season.

In the summer he completely made a balls up of the recruitment and left us with a very poor squad.

For me Clarke and Beavon have strengthened us, which then just conjures up of just how bad were we before.

Venus was right on this. He may have come out with other stuff that was guff, but he said we are not good enough for League One and he has been proved to have been absolutely bang on.

Top scorer with 5 goals, silly goals given away, can't compete physically and only 4 wins to our name all season.

That tells you how bad a side we have. Clear as day.

Slade took over a very poor side with problems all over the field.

I am not sticking up for Slade, but he was given the job of miracle worker.

Don't get me wrong, I think we'll go down and Slade will go and he'll have to take a portion of blame if that happens. As you say though we were screwed before he came in. Cc4l has a thing for Mowbray, you'll never change his mind, haha.

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[Otis]

Don't get me wrong, I think we'll go down and Slade will go and he'll have to take a portion of blame if that happens. As you say though we were screwed before he came in. Cc4l has a thing for Mowbray, you'll never change his mind, haha.

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I know. Why he has to keep on banging on about him relentlessly though I have no idea.

We continue to struggle now and go down, then of course Slade will have to shoulder some blame. He has now brought in a number of players.

We should now expect an improvement. 7 players in. All Slade's.

Sometimes when you are down there with the deadmen though it can be such a monumental task to get out of the mess.

I have my fingers now crossed that Vernam and Folivi can provide the goals to get us up the table.

 

[trevelfarandwide]

Not selling Haynes is a way of winning over the fans?

Did I say that? Stop fishing for bites, mate, you've been doing it all day, makes you look like a bit of an attention-seeker.

Haynes is shit, good riddance, I was referring more about the overall PRINCIPLE of the PR-ish way they've blocked outgoing transfers, or made them impossible.

Do you deny that SISU/Fisher are beyond conducting such an underhanded 'scheme' to try and quell the raging fan-base a bit? It's a piss poor attempt, yes, but it isn't beyond them in their out-of-touch manner.

 

[dongonzalos]

I know for a fact that we were offered £325K for Willis and £125K for Haynes
Not sure about Stevenson but the strong rumour is £600K plus loads of add ons

Would have took all of them to be honest. As long as Slade was given 1 million to get two strikers and a hard man.

In combined total that probably 500k less than it should be.
However staying up would be worth losing £500 k for.

 

[dongonzalos]

Haynes offer was a lot less and I assume the club think they will get more in the summer. Willis is never going to attract a Championship club and League one clubs will never pay those fees.

Is Haynes not out of contract in the summer. If not they will get more if he plays a full season.
If Stokes takes over and he just sits on the bench we won't get an offer for him.
I agree and think we should have accepted the Willis offer.

 

[covcity4life]

It is all very simple. Take off the earmuffs!!

Tony Mowbray this season had a clean slate. No games played, pre-season recruitment at hand.

Slade came in with us ALREADY in the bottom 4. He inherited a side that was already failing.

Slade may well now fail, but he had already inherited a failing side.

How is it compatible that a manager who comes in with us already in the bottom 4 can be compared to a manager who had us 11 points clear of 7th place and then failed?

Mowbray came in and kept us up 2 years ago. Its possible for a good manager.

Stop replying with same bs. You are wrong.

 

[covcity4life]

Don't get me wrong, I think we'll go down and Slade will go and he'll have to take a portion of blame if that happens. As you say though we were screwed before he came in. Cc4l has a thing for Mowbray, you'll never change his mind, haha.

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Not at all. Im happy to say mowbray will have to accept a portion of blame. But its a smaller portion tha otis says.

I will not accept someone blaming him whilst saying a manager who has half a seaosn never had a chance anyway but a guy who had 10 games is really to blame.

 

[Otis]

Mowbray came in and kept us up 2 years ago. Its possible for a good manager.

Stop replying with same bs. You are wrong.

Yeah, wrong in your tiny little mind.

The rest of us know the truth.

No way we should have ever not made the playoffs from the position we were in. It was a desperate sequence of games without wins, an awful run of form.

Then in the summer he and MV poorly recruited and built us a side ill equipped to compete at this level.

Venus said it and we know it to be true.

Not bs at all. It's there as plain as day.

Why do you keep going on about it? Can't we just agree to disagree?

It maybe boring the pants off everyone on here by now

 

[Otis]

Not at all. Im happy to say mowbray will have to accept a portion of blame. But its a smaller portion tha otis says.

I will not accept someone blaming him whilst saying a manager who has half a seaosn never had a chance anyway but a guy who had 10 games is really to blame.

It's not about the 10 games. For some reason you keep focusing on the 10 games. I have no idea why.

Where he failed was in his putting together of a very poor squad. Very clearly.

His summer recruitment led to us being when we are. He left us right down the in the bottom four of the table and there we have stayed, apart from the Venus little blip.

 

[AVWskyblue]

well he will share that mantle with mowbray and venus.

Of course he won't, he will have worked a miracle by firstly overcoming the shitfest he inherited from them, secondly by motivating the players who have had all confidence knocked out of them by the abysmal summer transfer dealings and constant cap coming from the clubs hierarchy

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[covcity4life]

It's not about the 10 games. For some reason you keep focusing on the 10 games. I have no idea why.

Where he failed was in his putting together of a very poor squad. Very clearly.

His summer recruitment led to us being when we are. He left us right down the in the bottom four of the table and there we have stayed, apart from the Venus little blip.

Look who is liking your posts. The guy who said slade was the savior in the league and now has egg on his face. Im sure he wnata to blame everyone but slade

When you made that thread you got 99% disagreeing with you. So stop being rude about tiny minds and realise you are chatting shit.

 

[Grendel]

Would have took all of them to be honest. As long as Slade was given 1 million to get two strikers and a hard man.

In combined total that probably 500k less than it should be.
However staying up would be worth losing £500 k for.

Top wumming

 

[no_loyalty]

Is Haynes not out of contract in the summer. If not they will get more if he plays a full season.
If Stokes takes over and he just sits on the bench we won't get an offer for him.
I agree and think we should have accepted the Willis offer.

Yes Haynes is out of contract in the summer, as is Stokes

 

[Cov kid 55]

Whichever league we are in he can fuck off he is useless.

It is certainly true that the last few games have been really poor, and the signs don't look good, but it is far too early to write him off. We should be judging him at season's end, when we can see whether progress has been made.

 

[skybluebeduff]

It is certainly true that the last few games have been really poor, and the signs don't look good, but it is far too early to write him off. We should be judging him at season's end, when we can see whether progress has been made.

Have you been to any games Slade has been in charge of? I think peoples reactions to him are justifiable, it always the fans who first sense the bullshit, they did with Pressley straight away, took a few months to work Mowbray out, it's took less than 6 games to work Slade out. Please justify him playing long ball up to two small strikers?

 

[Grendel]

Look who is liking your posts. The guy who said slade was the savior in the league and now has egg on his face. Im sure he wnata to blame everyone but slade

When you made that thread you got 99% disagreeing with you. So stop being rude about tiny minds and realise you are chatting shit.

Adams - best manager in 45 years - yes?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

It is certainly true that the last few games have been really poor, and the signs don't look good, but it is far too early to write him off. We should be judging him at season's end, when we can see whether progress has been made.

To late then if they had got them right man and not gone for a cheap available option they might have survived, the football is garbage and worse since he has Coached them and his after match chat is just rubbish to the point that I wouldn't interview him as it's pointless.

As a last point he continues to pick the worst player I have seen in the league this year and a man who would struggle to score in parks football.

 

[Otis]

Look who is liking your posts. The guy who said slade was the savior in the league and now has egg on his face. Im sure he wnata to blame everyone but slade

When you made that thread you got 99% disagreeing with you. So stop being rude about tiny minds and realise you are chatting shit.

Me, rude?

Yeah, okay. Trolling up to 11 tonight I see and less of the I'm right you're wrong stuff.

Surely this is all about opinions. Very clearly there are a lot of people of the same opinion, that of Mowbray failing last season and that of him building a crap squad.

Just look at the players he signed or brought in

Ghadzhev
Reid
Kwame Thomas
Aygei
Wright
Turnbull

Who did he bring in who was a success? Sordell maybe?

Turnbull no better than Martin, Reid underperformed, Wright awful, Ghadzhev a disaster.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Me, rude?

Yeah, okay. Trolling up to 11 tonight I see and less of the 'I'm right you're wrong stuff.

Surely this is all about opinions. Very clearly there are a lot of people of the same opinion, that of Mowbray failing last season and that of him building a crap squad.

Just look at the players he signed or brought in

Ghadzhev
Reid
Kwame Thomas
Aygei
Wright
Turnbull

He brought in some rubbish but I don't think we have given Ghadzev anytime to settle it's a different way of playing and a different environment also in the bits I have seen him he seems to want to get in the opposition box and score do he wouldn't fit in with Mowbray or this useless clown that's ruining us now.

 

[Cov kid 55]

Have you been to any games Slade has been in charge of? I think peoples reactions to him are justifiable, it always the fans who first sense the bullshit, they did with Pressley straight away, took a few months to work Mowbray out, it's took less than 6 games to work Slade out. Please justify him playing long ball up to two small strikers?

I can't justify those tactics, I was at the Chesterfield game and it was the worst I have seen a City team play, just hit and hope to two small forwards. I'm still giving him time, because he's what we've got, and I doubt he's going anywhere this season.

 

[Otis]

Look who is liking your posts. The guy who said slade was the savior in the league and now has egg on his face. Im sure he wnata to blame everyone but slade

When you made that thread you got 99% disagreeing with you. So stop being rude about tiny minds and realise you are chatting shit.

Disagreeing with what? I asked for people's opinions and like I said I was only talking about from a statistical position of 1st to bottom 4 and then if we go down.

When people look back statistically.

I certainly do not think he was one of the worst managers ever. Obviously not, but from a statistical standpoint he took us from almost certain nailed on playoffs to bottom 4.

Pointless arguing with you. I was merely trying to see what others thought on the matter. No right or wrong about it.

I bet in 20-30 years time when people look back and they see that we went from 1st to bottom 4 they will look and see who was the manager and wonder what the hell went wrong and I don't think he will be looked back upon that fondly. Yeah, as an attacking manager and nice bloke, but then also as a poor manager for us.

 

[Otis]

He brought in some rubbish but I don't think we have given Ghadzev anytime to settle it's a different way of playing and a different environment also in the bits I have seen him he seems to want to get in the opposition box and score do he wouldn't fit in with Mowbray or this useless clown that's ruining us now.

Really? When I have seen him he seems reluctant to go over the half way line and strolls about.

He was awful against Brighton in the EFL Trophy. I am convinced he will be gone.

Just seems to be here to go through the motions and pick up his pay packet.

That's my deduction anyway. Surely he has had enough time to adjust now hasn't he? And he has played a fair bit of international football too.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Really? When I have seen him he seems reluctant to go over the half way line and strolls about.

He was awful against Brighton in the EFL Trophy. I am convinced he will be gone.

Just seems to be here to go through the motions and pick up his pay packet.

That's my deduction anyway. Surely he has had enough time to adjust now hasn't he? And he has played a fair bit of international football too.

Couldn't comment on the Brighton game only just jumped on the bandwagon, all our midfielders play like that I can only put it down to what they are told in one of the early games can't think but it may have been Portsmouth he seemed to drive on.

How long does it take English players who move abroad to settle, I would give him a go he couldn't be Eire than the talentless Reilly

 

[Paxman II]

I believe we have the players to be doing much better. I also believe we need a goalscorer like Armstrong who can be relied upon for a goal.
Top that with Slades seemingly ineptitude in both tinkering too much with the side and his poor tactics. We don't have the personnel to play the way he would prefer.
He needs to play to strengths of the players we have. You can see the awkwardness of some players on the pitch looking almost lost as to what their job is.

I hope he gets a good old 4-4-2 and picks the players for it. Have them play for the shirt, harassing and chasing down balls and getting in the oppositions face. Get some real endeavor going and spirit. Give Stevenson his head and get some pace in the side. If he stays negative to not lose, then we will fail. It won't be on TM it will be on Slade. We have got far worse under his stewardship.

 

[Captain Dart]

All rejected?

Hardly worth consideration at those levels.

 

[Otis]

I believe we have the players to be doing much better. I also believe we need a goalscorer like Armstrong who can be relied upon for a goal.
Top that with Slades seemingly ineptitude in both tinkering too much with the side and his poor tactics. We don't have the personnel to play the way he would prefer.
He needs to play to strengths of the players we have. You can see the awkwardness of some players on the pitch looking almost lost as to what their job is.

I hope he gets a good old 4-4-2 and picks the players for it. Have them play for the shirt, harassing and chasing down balls and getting in the oppositions face. Get some real endeavor going and spirit. Give Stevenson his head and get some pace in the side. If he stays negative to not lose, then we will fail. It won't be on TM it will be on Slade. We have got far worse under his stewardship.

Slade now has his team. Signed 7. We should expect an improvement.